Did This Father Go Too Far in Punishing His Son?
by Dr. Boyce Watkins
The details are admittedly sketchy on what happened here, but this boy decided to share his domestic dispute with cyberspace. We are not sure if he is seeking sympathy or just happened to snap the photo. The story goes something like this: The teenager gets out of control and begins to argue with his mother. He then refers to his mother as a b*tch, which leads to his father stepping in to defend his mother. We don’t know who won the fight, but this is what his face looks like after the fight is over. Assuming that he is the cause of the injuries in this image, did this dad go too far with the boy?
As the image has been circulating throughout the blogosphere, everyone has been giving their two cents on the matter.
Did the dad go overboard? My answer is “probably yes,” unless there is some piece of the story that hasn’t been shared. I can’t imagine your son saying anything that would justify a beating of this magnitude. Even kicking him out of the house or calling the police might be a better option than simply beating him to a pulp and risking jail time yourself.
Anyone who was raised in the old school knows that this sort of thing happens regularly in our community, and there was a time when the idea of being able to call the authorities on your parents was simply out of the question. While some might think it’s a sad day that a child can call the police on his parents, there are some parents who need to learn how to slow their roll. Beating the h**l out of your child and being proud of it is no way to parent, I hope we can agree on that. There are far more intelligent and loving ways to get your child to respect you, instead of threatening to kill them for every little indiscretion as they simply creep and do all their dirt behind your back.
At the same time, I am admittedly skeptical of all the new age (read “white”) psychologists who try to tell us that black parents are backward for believing that some kids need to be spanked. Every time I go to the grocery store and see a little blonde-headed three year old throwing boxes of cereal at his mother’s head, I am reminded of why the old school can sometimes be preferable to the undisciplined behemoths that I’ve seen on college campuses. I can name at least 500 kids I’ve taught over the years whose parents never taught them discipline and therefore gave them a license to become menaces to society.
We love our kids, and there may be room for various forms of physical discipline. But beatings like the one in this image have to stop.
Feel free to help me understand why I might be wrong.
Dr. Boyce Watkins is a Professor at Syracuse University and founder of the Your Black World Coalition. To receive Dr. Boyce commentary in your email, please click here.
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I dont care if his mother is a b***h, he doesnt get to call her that…sick of these disprespectful kids! If he doesnt respect his own mother then he respects no one (including himself). He can take that attitude out in the streets if he wants to but i guarantee a busted mouth would be the least of his worries. Instead someone will bust a cap in his young stupid a**e! He gon learn today!!!
TRUTH!!!
“If he doesnt respect his own mother then he respects no one (including himself)”?
What if a childs mother is a drug addict, who steals his property to barter for drugs, and whips him every other day, should she shower her with love and affection?
Absolutely Tamara!!! In Jamaica we say “Keep it to yuhself!!!” Seems he wasn’t willing to accept what his father was demanding either – he must have really been mouthing off non-stop to have gotten such a beat down and he wouldn’t stay down! Wish it didn’t come to this for both of them. Now they all have to face the contusions and regrets while he heals.
In TOTAL Agreement
He is the problem… If you have to beat your child especially to the point where he looks like this young man… Then the parent has FAILED… It’s our responsibility as parents to teach and guide. If this young man has not learned respect and appropriate behavior at this point in his life… Then its Daddy and Mamma who needs their behinds whooped… Poor parenting will always lead to a poor result coming from the child…
I totally agree with you Terrance! If this youngman called his mother a name; it certainly does not justify this type beating from his dad. This matter could have been handled in a less violent manner. The dad seems to have an anger problem. *And we wonder why young teen males seek a role model or acceptance in other males as mentors. This is a sad situation; which the majority of the time leads to youngmen joining gangs!!!!!
Exactly Terrance! At his age, a beat down like THAT means they waited too long.
Train up a child in the way they should go: and when he is old he will not depart from it. Prob.6:22
Without more of the story being known, It’s a little harsh to call the parents failed parents. These days it takes more than just two parents to raise a child. I have grandkids that are coming to that age where rebelling is common. When a sign of disrespect is noticed inside or outside of the family, all most every family member and close friend quckly puts that person on notice, that disrespect is not tolerated, thats it and thats all. Everybody goes through trails and tribulations, but we deal with them without disrespecting and nobody has to get beat down.
u can raise your kids 2day your a*s wil go 2jail if u put your hands on them …a a*s wooping go alne wit the talking sometime…talking dont workall the time..
I’m sorry, but children who end up behaving that way aren’t necessarily a product of bad parenting. Certain mental conditions start to emerge around the teen years, ie schizophrenia, bipolar etc, and without treatment even the best parents can seem to fall short. However there really is no reason to beat someone that bad unless of course you are protecting yourself.
I agree with you. It’s better that his dad got to him before the streets. My mom threatened me more than my dad and til this day I’m still fearful of her. I’m almost 30 & never been arrested, never smoked or tried anything once, in trouble with the law or school, or ever dealt with any kind of drugs. My mom will still threaten me if I get out of line & my friends love her for it just as much as I do. Some wish their mother was like her.
Black women are b*****s, the DAD and MOM should DIE!!!!
what u wrote is sad no father or mother should lay his or her hands on their kids.and your just an a*s.
If i had called my mother a b***h as a child…i would not be responding today.
Lol, my sentiments exactly….
I know thats right!!!! You never call your mother a b***h, and I’m wondering what really went down in that household. We need to hear the whole story, the real truth. I don’t believe that beat down although very sad was something that just got out of control all of a sudden. If this youngman called his mother a b***h, he was out of control foreal. Most men love their mothers, and they respect and protect them no matter what.
No child should call their mother a b***h!! Where did he get the idea that he could? Yes, I think this father went too far. A good ole b**t beating w a belt was in order. Along w alllll priviledges and a written essay to his family about respecting ur parents, w a bibliography.
If this young man had the idea that it was ok to disrespect his parents by calling his mom a b***h, well something has gone wrong.
Gotta nip this in the bud before he gets in more serious trouble.
No offense, but you’ve got to be a white person. Take away his privileges, make him write an essay and this kid is probably 19 and 6-2. How about if he says Eff you and eff an essay. He needed his a*s beat!
witepeople dont woop there kids never did ..so they kids kick they a*s ..go 2 the school shoot up the schools…they always have talk back 2 heir parents…so that nothing new on the half
I agree with Sharon, however, the punishment you suggest is probably useful on someone 13 and under. This guy looks like a grown man. The father def went too far, but a good a*s whoopin was long overdue!
Renee, how can you say white ppl don’t whoop their kids? Have you been in EVERY white household to see how they all discipline their children? And bringing up shooting up schools…are you serious? Our kids shoot each other! Is that any better? Not everything has to do with race!
Did the father go to far? “maybe” BUT once you call your mom a b*tch and in front of her husband your father, YUP you deserve to get your lil azz whipped
REAL TALK!!!
Nah….don’t beat him….put his disrespectful a*s out! He can fend for himself…no money, washed clothe, cooked meals, or any other kind of support from his “b***h” mom!
Yup! If she’s a b***h, he doesn’t need to live with her anyway. We need to keep all the toxic people out of our lives.
Needless to say the father went too far!
Calling one’s mother a “b***h” with the father present is the ultimate disrespect for the two people who brought him into this world. By uploading this photo on the blogosphere only compounds his stupidity, if his motive is to gain a modicum of sympathy. He looks big enough to be able to take a punch and hopefully learned his lesson.
Yes, the dad went too far. This picture tells me the dad was fed up with his smart mouth and popped him in it. In my opinion, the boy should have been taught how to love and respect his parents from the very beginning. This beating would not have occurred if he had learned early in his life how to properly address his mother and express his feelings. Unfortunately, parents want to exercise discipline after the child is older, when in reality, early discipline would have prevented the behavior that got him beat.
I agree 100% this wasn’t an isolated incident. They let things get too far when it could have been controlled a long time ago in a more positive way.
Oh get a grip…he is copying the girl whose Dad shot her laptop!! If he hand’t learned early in his life how to properly address his mother do you think he would be alive to be Youtubing himself now? smdh You call your parents b***h when you want to have your own way..come on now!!!
Thank you Sharon. This young man was obviously feeling himself, and decided he was tough enough to test his parents. Well, it cost him plenty. Yes this beating looks horrible, but i’m not convinced we have all the facts.
I agree with your comment, Marilyn. No matter what was said or how it was said, this abuse should have never happened. The issue with most of the Black community is that violence takes precedence over actually solving issues. Seems to me Black fathers who call themselves men are being exposed more and more these days. Torrent temperament signals that somewhere deep inside the “man” lies a boy who never grew up, a boy never had positive direction and instruction from a man.
Most of our fathers need a life coach to answer those questions which were never answered during early childhood — like how to pray before you punch. Or how to raise up a child in the right way they should go.
Lol…Y’all kill me with that punish them with kindness rhetoric. It never works but a good punch in the mouth works wonders! Remember “Spare the rod spoil the child” and I brought you into this world and I will take you out!”
The Bible also says “Thy rod and thy staff they comfort me…” I have come to understand that the rod is to be firmly planted in the ground close to the seedling. Strong and firm so that as the vine grows it will be trained to go in a particular direction. “Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it.” What is this dad train his son to do?
Don’t misunderstand me, I did say that rod needs to be strong and firmly planted. If the kid swerved and scratched the paint a bit because he bumped the guard rails that’s one think this look like a flat out wreck. No way I do that to my boy. But I am putting in the work now so that prayerfully, it would never come to this.
You ASSUME that the father did not have a father to guide him/properly guide him. You ASSUME that violence takes precedence in this home.
Truth is, NONE of us know what happened because we don’t know the full story.
I don’t support unnecessary violence on ANYONE, but we just don’t know what happened here.
With the way many young people act today: thieving flash-mobs, violence against others (how many times have we heard about teens killing each other for no reason and putting it on Youtube? Too many.) How many times have we heard teen violence against their own parents (who DON”T abuse them)? Many. Some of these young men feel that they are invincible and can do and say whatever they want to anyone, including their parents.
By the way, for many men, it does not take a “beating” as Boyce says to get a mouth b****y. I know quite a few men who can do such damage with a strong backhand. And two punches is all it may take to do this.
Lets’ get real: there are PLENTY of decent, non-violent, and upstanding men who might have given another man two to the lip if he had called their wife a b****.
Well said Blossom!
These kids today….
So true. If he had the gall to call his mom a B…then who’s to say he didn’t decide to box with daddy! My opinion it wasn’t a beat down because his teeth are still intact
TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!
Based on the picture alone, it looks like the father was exretme, BUT… this is not a child in this photo, more like a young man, and if he was bold enough to insult his mother like that while the father was home, I’m betting he was bold enough to buck up against his father and try to “stand his ground.” In that case, he has learned first hand what it is like to be a man insulting another man’s wife. If he had done that in the streets, this would probably be a homicide photo instead. Commit a man’s mistake, you get a man’s discipline. End of lesson.
True dat
Exactly!
I couldn’t put it better!
He deserved that wripping. Yessir!!!
I wonder who pays for the phone that he used to post the picture? This does not appear to be a small child, so his father was probably seeing him as a man, just like someone in the streets would.
Well all i can say is that the picture does not look good aspecialy that this happend within the family but for the fact that the boy called his mama like that he definatly would have been dead if he was my brother
Bet he wont say it again!
This is a horrific image. Without knowing all the details, it may be safe to assume that things were out of control before this incident. Has this happened before? I see everyday youth being disrespectful violent and cavalier. Usually these same youth lack a solid parental foundation of guidance and discipline. Once they are too big to be spanked and are the same size and height as the parent.grown up actions get grown up reactions.
That’s going too far.I’ve taken some really deserved whippings but that’s just crazy!!!
Wow that’s a strong one sided picture, I think if he called his mother a b***h that should be the last word to leave his mouth. I bet he said way more than that, from the looks of his face he will not go that way again. People scream abuse but truth be told it’s abuse when you don’t correct your child, it’s abuse to let him or her think you can say or do anything and there will be no actions to follow. Teenagers these days are off the chain and need to be put in their place. Respect your parents so that your days will be long in the land your God gave you. In the Bible the punishment is death. Like Fred G Sandford would say I brought you into this world and I will take you out! Once the child loses respect for their mother it’s a rap done deal! One more example Minister Farrakhan told us a story about his Mother’s friend who lived next door and one day she was beating her son’s b**t and some one called the police and the cops showed up and said someone called and said you are beating your child are you? She said yes I am did your mother beat you, he said yes she said and I’m beating mine so that someday you will not have to use that gun on your hip or that stick you got so come on in and watch while I beat his a*s. After she was done she said okay you can go now I’m done. And he left children must be raised properly and getting your a*s beat when you violate rules is part of raising your child. Don’t do it and the police will do it for you or the jail will make them slaves. Because in their mind I can do what I want to do and nothing will happen to me, yeah right till that steal door gets closed then truth has come to them but it’s too late! Thank you for reading As Salaam Aliakum
Thanks for that well received knowledge
Alaikum Al Salaam
The child deserved a good old fashioned whippin’ but not this! Also, it’s 2012. We as black people need to stop publicly criticizing what they do. How would we like it if white folks were as openly critical online about how we choose to rear our kids. Change the words from white to black in this article and there would be an uproar! We have to decide when we as a people are going to be ready to embrace other races and cultures and stop hating “the man”. Does racism still exist…yes! And I would be the first in line to call out a racist but should we make fun of an entire race of people, remark about the color of a white child’s blonde hair and eyes in a public forum at that. In order for race relations to improve and start working for us, we have to stop working against it.
These are the results of what happens when a generation of people go on without proper traditions, information, love, and understanding of everyone’s role in the family structure. There is no solution which fits all situations, because everyone is basically helter-skelter going forward in their lives, and worse when trying to raise and control others, but especially children. People of the American social-structure are rapidly going insane at an alarming rate with no healthy or notable solution in sight!
This type of dangerous incident is surely going on all over the country, with numerous terrible results in every category imaginable. The parents are usually poorly educated and improperly socialized and their children suffer because of it. Intelligent adults and children generally fair better, but I caution that lunacy easily trumps intelligence. Therefore we see adults beating and murdering children, and children beating and murdering adults. We see adults abusing children and children creating the atmosphere where adults easily become victims of their own stupidity, ignorance and just plain lunacy. This will never end because as I’ve stated earlier. Everyone is slipping deeper into lunacy, and the US social structure is totally off keel!
Did the father go too far? HELLLL NOO! How dare “YOU” call your MOTHER a b***h??!!?? I’m with Tamara he’s LUCKY to be alive! He needs to be glad he still have any teeth! I’m from the ol skool where a good old fashion @$$ beaten is much needed! That’s why these kids are out of control now. Yawl just want to put them on punishment…DAAMN DAT!! I wish my child would DARE disrespect me in any kind of way…my child will look worst than him…BELIEVE THAT!
Contrary to Dr. Boyce’s statement that this was a normal occurrence in the old school ways, the parents back in the days, mostly beat us on our butts. Even though I would never had called my mother, a bad name in her face, if my father had beat me like that boy’s father did, I would have waited until he went to sleep, and stuck a butcher knife through his heart. My father used to beat my a*s all the time, and I deserved it, and took it. But, he never beat me in my face, and though it may have hurt like h**l, he wasn’t trying to disfigure, or kill me. This father, should have beat his son on his a*s, and then tossed his a*s out. After a few nights, or weeks in the street, going to so called friends houses, who will put you out at dinner time, he’d learn how great his parents are. This father, belongs in jail.
So if you call your mom a “b***h” aren’t you pretty much calling yourself a “b*****d”?
I think that when people hear the word “mother” they automatically associate it with someone who is loving and nurturing. However, everybody’s mom is not like that so with that being said some people have moms who deserve to be called out of their name. People are so quick to judge kids when they act out without investigating why they are behaving in such a manner. He could come from a household where he is constantly being put down, used, and may feel neglected and he could have just snapped. He may not even have a social life which is very important because everybody needs a break from home. We live in a world where nothing is the same anymore not even parents. Yeah he was wrong for calling his mom a B**** but does that make what his parents could have done to provoke him ok?! Just because someone opens up their legs to make a baby doesn’t mean they are worthy of being a parent? Also kids pay bills and are independent these days so they need respect too.
I don’t care if his mom is the lowest scum of the earth he still doesn’t get to disrespect her and especially in front of his father. #NO EXCUSES, EVER! What he did was shorten his own life on this earth. I am a strong believer in discipline he wanted to act like a disrespectful man so he got handled like one.
It may be true that his mother may not be nurturing, but that is not the point!! His mother is STILL his mother!! If he can’t stand her, he needs to get his full education, get a job and save every cent, and get the heck out of her house!!!
I don’t support violence; a b**t-whooping is not necessarily “violence” when it is done by someone that is standing up for their family/loved one and it’s warranted.
As I commented earlier, with some of the men I know, two to the mouth would have sufficiently done what you see above.
If this young man was so terrorized, why did he post this picture on the internet?? Did it come with a “Help me!” message attached to it??
What if his father verbally disciplined him, but then this young man physically threatened his father, as many teens of many races do today? Maybe THAT is what may have led to the father having to put him in his place!!
So sad that people too often automatically assume that a Black family has not given their children the proper love and caring when something goes wrong.
I wish someone would patent those Magic Pills some people seem to be using to raise their “perfect” children. Yes, I know that love, kindness, and gentleness, communication goes a long way. But some kids, esp teens, JUST WANT THEIR OWN WAY.
so true.
There is no justification to beating a teenager in this manner. I don’t care if you say that back in the day it was normal. It’s not normal, it’s aberrant behavior and that father needs to be put in prison, not just jail. It’s called felony child abuse. It’s inexcusable. The punishment did not fit the rime and was excessive. IMO, the father is a poor excuse for a man!
thess danm kids need they a*s kick like that n this wold 2day
Dr. Boyce
I’m not one to use corporal punishment to discipline a child I don’t think it accomplishes anything. However, when a son feels free to call a woman a b***h, let alone his own mother then he deserves to have his a**e kicked. Any time a man steps into his own mother’s face then he has lost respect, the next step would be him assaulting her.So NO I don’t think his father was out of line, if any thing this needs to happen more often when a child behaves in this manner.
If we don’t get a handle on these kids sooner than later it won’t matter what anyone thinks. Better get your feelings off your sleeves and manup and handle this epidemic before this epidemic handles up. No way I would have been able to post a picture or make a statement of any kind if my Dad had heard me call my mother that. Fact of the matter my mom would have done worst. Real Talk America..
I agree w/ mr muhammad& wizard g, my siblings & I were “whipped” when we “got out of line” & we’re all better 4 it. I am employed with the school district & see total disrespect from the mouths of Kinder&1st graders. Its absolutely reprehensible, parents afraid to punish/discipline children for fear of police/court retribution. I truly wish spanking & praying were NOT removed from the schools. LORD help us ALL.
I totally agree!
Now this may or may not be appropriate, yet it is indicative of the Really. Awful poetry (RAP) & violent images directed at people of color. Such music & media has been pipelined into our peoples psych since approx. 1989 (gangster rap) whom the late C. Delores Tucker railed against and was ridiculed by an undereducated TuPac! The true culprits are those morally bankrupt individuals who utilize the science called music to perpetuate stereotypes of hatred! The boy is wrong and the dad likewise yet the legal punishment should be executed to the media moguls who continue to subprogram our children for such self hatred and ignorant disrespect. In otherwords they are acting like the word that permeates they lips at every greeting and departure…n*****s
he called a b***h one time to many that day and his father put a stop to it..it was not his first time saying it and for all we know, this may not be the first time he got his s**t busted but it probably was the worst and I bet you he will think twice about saying it again..his father does not belong in jail in my opinion, beat his a*s and talk later
If this is all he got after calling his mom the B word, in front of his father, than he is a lucky young man.Looks like a back hand slap could have done this, all his teeth are still there . My dad never hit me ,but then again I would have never thought of calling my Mom out of her name and I don’t think this child will call his mom the B word ever again. Answer to your question;I think the Dad would have done the same thing if a man on the street would have called his wife a btch. Yes he deserverd it.
I doubt if this was the result of just one punch. I also doubt that the kid cooperated with the punching. He probably fought back. It looks rough, but he shouldn’t have called his mother a b***h. Period.
That’s the difference between todays kids and our generation. ‘IF’ we called our mother the “B” word, that would have been just his FIRST A$$-Whoopin, then Grandmom turn, then uncles turns, then your brothers turns, and then his A$$ would have been on punishment. In other words—NO CAMERA EITHER! He’d be the dish-washin’est, car washin’est, grass cutin’est, snow-shovelin’est boy on the block. Next time he called his mother a name–the name would be Maaaam!
nice
Super NICE Nate. I remember those days..
Nothing justified that abuse, UNLESS HE WAS either ATTACKING or ATTEMPTING TO ATTACK THE DEFENSELESS MOTHER. Black People or anyone into “WHIPPINGS” should ask themselves before engaging in physical retailiation, WHAT IS MY OBJECTIVE OR WHAT LESSONS DO I WANT MY CHILD TO LEARN BY USING PHYSICAL PUNISHMENT? ARE THERE ALTERNATIVES THAT HELP ME ASSIST THIS OUTCOME WITHOUT PHYSICAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL HARM TO MYSELF OR THE CHILD? Putting the child out, calling the police, taking them straight to a group home etc is always the best message to a disrespectful child in the truest since. Ultimately, the greatest fear of all people is abandonment by those who have given us the most love and care. If a child sees that you will not tolerate their disrespect (granted its trully disrespectful) by putting them out, they will get the message. For this photo, THE FATHER WAS THE BTICH!! If the father wanted to teach the kid a lesson, simply put his a*s OUT and tell him to find a b***h that will give birth to him and care for him in a better way.
He learned his lesson, you can’t disrespect your mother with your father standing close enough to smack you in the mouth. For a Black kid to do this I feel the parent have already did the timeouts, taking toys, computers, and other stuff that’s suppose to be meaningful in order to discipline him. It doesn’t work for some kids.
Calling the police, who are usually the first ones to beat, maim, kill Black young men?????? Really??? What society are YOU living in???? Do you read the papers?? Do you look out the windows, or watch any news on TV or on the internet?? You are here on this site, so I know FOR SURE that you must have seen some of the videos and stories that chronicle SERIOUS abuse by police.
You say the parents should try group homes, that are notorious for abusing kids???? Where’s the non-violence in either one of your solutions??? How many children have we seen even recently that have died because of neglect by Child “Welfare” Authorities who often KNOW that the children are being abused in foster care and do nothing about it????
And by the way, you CAN’T TAKE A CHILD STRAIGHT TO A GROUP HOME. THERE MUCH THAT HAS TO BE DONE VIA THE COURTS ETC BEFORE THEY DETERMINE IF AND I SAID IF THEY WILL TAKE YOUR CHILD, especially a teen.
AND,,,,, how do you know that the parents have not already gone that route??? MANY parents around this country are suffering because they are not getting help with their teens from the authorities when they ask for it.
It is a long-standing problem that parents asking for their child with SERIOUS behavioral problems to be designated with PIN status (a person in need of supervision) are too often turned away by the courts, or are betrayed and become victims of investigations that make THEM look like they are abusive, when they are not.
You talk all this psycho-bull about abandonment being the biggest fear. To a 4-year old, yes. to a grown-*** teen, I don’t know about that. I rather bust my child in the mouth then hand them over to complete strangers that don’t know them and more then likely don’t care about them.
BLOSSOM, I stand by what I said earlier. You seem to be making or depending upon NEGATIVE BLACK URBAN GENERALIZATIONS about what would most likely happen to young black men or people in general with regard to police involvement. THIS IS ABUSE UPON THIS KID is an isolated case the warrants those wishing to make assessments or judgements to KNOW ALL THE FACTS about what happened. Thus what is reported thus far does not warrant this outcome upon this kid. ULTIMATELY WHAT DID THE FATHER TEACH THE KID? Yeah dont call your mom a b***h is one thing, but also, when someone says something disrespectful to you or your family, PHYSICAL FORCE OR RETAILATION is the answer; of which could lead to greater physical harm, injury and death. This is known as violence and this type of s**t will not stand up in a court of law. Its amazing how many black people support this nonsense and then turn around and want to know why there is so much black on black crime. So my answer and question to you is to you is to ANSWER YOUR OWN QUESTION because it is devoid of deeper considerations that lack in promoting civility and intelligent parenting skills.
awakened 1- You are a real trick. That is what is wrong with kids these days. They think they can disrespect their parents because of their age.
Which is totally ignorant and dumb. Better to learn respect from those who love them or suffer the consequences, when they end up in jail and end up being some prison gangs b***h.
Or end up with a shank sticking out of their neck because they said the wrong thing to the wrong person.
f**k THIS PUNK. CALL SOMEBODY A b***h ON THE STREETS YOU MIGHT CATCH A BULLET INSTEAD OF A GOOD OLD FASHION a*s KICKING!!!
AN EYE FOR AN EYE… leaves everyone blind. Physical retailation for being called a b***h can and should not RESORT TO PHYSICAL RETAILATION or better yet ABUSE. If this was the case we would have far more physical violence and people locked up and placed in jail. THERE ARE ALWAYS OPTIONS TO BE EXERCISED and regardless of others on this page being raised in a realm of Physical abuse by their ‘BLACK CULTURED PARENTING” —- this was not the best option. I would be willing to tolerate or understand a slap upon the kids face, if not, pushed up against wall or put out of the house, but this was indeed excessive. Also, its amazing in reading the above response posts how many ASSUME THE KID OR ANY TEEN TO BE WRONG OR AT FAULT BECAUSE OF NEGATIVE GENERALIZATIONS about teens. However, one must keep in mind that “The Nature of ones child is often a reflection of the parents nature and of course parenting skills”. People often refuse to take responsibility that they as parents make mistakes, must learn lessions that require them to upgrade and refine their parenting skills and mature overall. People can not resort to teaching kids that anytime we disagree or have an issue, physical force or retailation or physical discipline is THE ONLY appropriate measure. This type of parenting is antiquated, and nothing surely gets rectified nor ultimately solved in the deepest sense.
This was not a brutal beating (it’s lacking any black eyes or any other scrapes or bruising), it was a hit in the mouth!! That same mouth he used to call the woman who gave him life, a B*tch! You can best believe if he called her that, he thought he could whip his dads a*s for stepping in to defend her. This is just proof that he couldn’t.
I’m not sure that this picture is accurate for this story. I saw the same picture on twitter and the guy claimed to have been jumped in the club.
I feel that there was a better way to handle this.
The father should show his son what happened to slaves when they got out of hand, whipped, burned, lynched, killed etc., just for speaking up or trying to become independent.
Yes we are dealing with monsters from the past to now, first slavery and now disrespectful bravery, from the children.
We must find a better way.
Move that child and family from the environment where this type of behavior seems normal to the child!
I understand the father’s point of view. The child may never do this again. It was about disrespect vs. respect.
Did he put on the cyberspace, the way he was disrespecting his mother? But he advertised his own b**t being whipped for being disrespectful.
Hmmph!
My father would have gone for his gun if I had called my mother a “b—h”. This kid had it coming. He would have been uglier had he been my son. I am sick of these messed up kids.
Too far.. hmmm Define too far. Calling the women who birth you a “b***h” is too far.. and getting the correction of your life by your father who happens to be the man of the house.. isn’t! Show some respect! It is only too far if the father was kicking his a* with other stuff going on in his head and lost control. We need to discipline our children. To me.. abuse is when it’s a constant situation. Straightening out your child isn’t abuse. As soon as one of us rob and steal.. then people are asking “where were the parents?” I got my share of a* whipping (I love my mother for it) and I’m straight as an arrow because I understand Cause and Effect!
I too have been in the exact situation with my daughter who is 5’11″ and approx. 260 lbs. She also suffers from ADHD. When she gets upset or doesn’t get her way any and everything will come out of her mouth. She is also light skinned like the above child and bruises easily. I’m sure this kid also has similar issues. It doesn’t take a severe beating to get this result, I know because I have been there three or four times. Most times the only way to calm my daughter is a shot or two to the head and she seems to settle down. It may sound like abuse but if you have someone trying to do you bodily harm and you are out weighed by 60 or more pounds, I don’t care if it is my kid he or she is going down. The sad part about it is the next day they act as though nothing ever happened. No apology, no explaination even though a look in the mirror tells her she got beat down it never dawns on her to question herself why it happened. This has been going on since age 13 and she’s now 20. Aside from their inability to make rationale decisions the immaturaty level has remained the same over the years. ADD and ADHD are very very bad afflictions that a lot of kids suffer with today. Didn’t have anywhere near these types of issues when I was young and I’m 61 Years old. Is there something in the water?
Larry that is the most stupid a*s, disrespectful and dysfunctional parenting comments on this board. Most peoples comments supporting this child’s abuse is sad to put it lightly. THE EFFECTS OF SLAVERY has done a job on our people with regard to how parents discipline their children. SMH
If he got his a*s whooped for such reason and commenced to discuss it online … Then something went wrong awhile ago. The az whopping Has had lil effect and he will do it again.
I’m all for punishment for disrespectful kids, and I can honestly say I raised two sons to adulthood and they NEVER called me a B****. That was because they learned from a young age to never cross that line. Something has to be terribly wrong in that house for that young man to call his mother out of her name and for his father to beat him that way. This is not a whipping this is abuse plain and simple. I have to question why the parents let it get this far. If he was that disrespectful, then yes he should have been punished but not beaten to a pulp. My ex husband rarely laid a hand on our sons and usually it was just to grab them and shake some sense into them, but he never hit them with his fist. This is not an old school b**t whooping but a beating that came from rage.
Any child calling their mother a b***h warrants far more considerations than just the fact that the woman gave birth to that child to support this abuse. Intelligent analysis in an effort to get to the root of this issue would lead one to ask what pinned up anger or resentment is this child harboring toward their parent that would lead them to of course relay such language? What is that child’s environment like in the home? Has this child heard or observed the father or mother use such language of disrespect at each other or even toward the children? Has there been some physical and s****l abuse? Is the child suffering from some mental disorders or problems? Was alcohol or drug use involved in this situation?
Its amazing how no one seeks to either consider or rasie these questions in an effort to make a sensible argument, assessment or even conclusive judgment Most kids dont call or disrespect their parents like this and when this happen, this is not just an indication to place blame solely on the child, but possibly, if not equally on the parents as well. THESE PARENTS CLEARLY HAD OPTIONS and this was very excessive. The kid was apprarently not raise well.
Call your mother a “B”? A black woman too….lol…Oh please! He should be glad he didn’t go see Jesus. I bet the next time he says that word, he will have a serious flashback…rightfully so. The children of today are terribly disrespectful.
To show a photo of this kind without all of the facts, make the lumped up adolescent look like the victim. But if he admitted to calling his mother, the one who carried him for nine months and cared for him when he couldn’t care for himself the “B” word. The first thing he should have been doing was apologizing. People who do bad things always look for sympathy when they loose the upper hand. My opinion is the father would have gone to far if he had serverly injured or killed him. You can image the rage the father had to suppress confronting an ungrateful child eating, drinking, sleeping, and ” chilling” for Free!… After finding out that ” A stranger is in the house”. So he got beat like a stranger. Then again a stranger may have wound up dead. I’ve raised two boys who are men and married with children today. Never had to deal with this one SMH.
Thank you, Chris!!!!
Clearly the mother and the father has some serious issues in their parenting that would incite this child to speak such angry and disrespectful words at their mother. People may want to explore what else is going on in this household because s**t like this does not commonly occur and when it does its not always JUST THE CHIDS FAULT. Also, this abuse was excessive. I am sure the father was either arrested or could have been arrested or with further investigation by police and child protective services will be ARRESTED. Discipline for a child should never entail this type of outcome. its barbaric, antiquated and devoid of considering alternative options and examination of improvements in communication between parents and children.
OK but it woud have been OK for the police 2shoot an kill him if he would have said some r done something to him..he not the police child …but that would give the police the right…
Usually a fan, but “hates” whe you have to bring race into a non-racial situation. What does “new age (read:white) have to do with anything?? We have enough racial issues without you creating one. d**n doc. Ease up.
So here it is all in the nutshell….I’m 49 years old, this kid looks to be about 17 or 18…NO WAY in the world would I have even thought of call my mother anything other than mama!! NOW here is the problem, the law says you can’t discipline your kids, so 10 or more years ago when this kid was 7, mom and dad went from, go get me my belt or a switch off the tree to…little Johnny go sit in a corner…REALLY! Then little Johnny found out that his parents aren’t allow to spank him anymore and if they do call 911 and send your parent(s) to jail REALLY! So now little Johnny figures he can do what the h**l he wants. This is why here in 2012 you have more young adults doing what they want, when they want. Back in 1970′s my mother only had to tell me once to be in by the time the street lights came on. Today 2012 Little Johnny doesn’t have to come home till he feels like it. Someone with a eraser needs to change the law. There IS a big difference between child abuse and disciplinary action. And of course this young adult is not going to tell of the years of disobeying of his parents. You just don’t one day call your mother a b**ch. This kid has been acting up for a long time and Dad was tired of being a punk in his own home.
Parents are afraid of going to jail and let their children run over them. THIS IS NOT CHILD ABUSE. THIS IS PARENT ABUSE! Seems
to me Dad has gotten his house hold back in order.
Well said cause “lil Johnny” shouldn’t rule in anyone’s house when he isn’t paying the bills!
I TOTALLY AGREE w/u, Dee! I have witnessed FIRST HAND the very scenario u just described!
I have a dear friend…single (divorced) mother, holding down 2 jobs, raising her 3 teens without assistance from their dad. All girls. She houses them in a beautiful 5 bedroom townhome. They all received new bedroom suites & mattresses this year ($3k per kid). Trips to the mall are bi-weekly for new clothes. Outings are frequent & they are all in after school programs (sports/tutoring). She cooks a hot meal EVERY night. They “don’t do” leftovers. She is attentive, involved, & encouraging. Yet, they treat her like trash on the street!
This past year alone, they refused to walk to the bus stop each morning, and ‘demanded’ she drive them to school in her 2012 Mercedes….when she refused, the two eldest girls took to ‘missing’ the bus every morning for a week to ‘prove’ the walk was ‘too far’. The youngest promptly got in a fight on her bus, and was banned permanently. So, the mother caved and began driving 3kids to 2different schools each morning.
The eldest (who is 17) asked for an expensive outfit. The mother said ‘no’ (as she’d already spent $300 on her at a mall outing that week). The next morning, the eldest got in her mother’s face…pushing, shoving, threatening. The mother delivered ONE slap to the girls face. That ended the attack. The girl went to school and told the ‘counselor’ that her mother had beaten her with a metal rod, was ‘neglectful’, & did not ‘feed’ her enough.
Now, DFACS comes to the house 3 times a week for counseling sessions, and to grill the mother, look through her cupboards, etc. They have instructed her that she is NEVER to physically discipline her children. Even if they strike HER, which the daughter did, SHE is to leave…..calm down, talk about it later. WTF!?
Now, the children have incorporated the sentence ‘ u ain’t gonna TOUCH ME! Because if you DO, I’ll just call DFACS and have you ARRESTED! U ain’t gonna do SH*T!’
Great.
The 2nd child, who is 14, decided she is ready to have s*x. The mother found flavored lubricants & a s*x toy in her school bag. When confronted, the girl said she was going to ‘kill herself’ is the mother did not stop trying to ‘run her life’. She then ran away & was missing for 1full week. Only to be found at the home of the boy she’d apparently been told she was too young to date. The mother says she’s pressing charges.
The youngest child, who is 12, has begun to copy her older sisters in verbally disrespecting her mother. She is also acting out at school…has cursed out 2 teachers & the PRINCIPAL, resulting in her being suspended from school.
I’ve heard them call their mother ‘worthless, stupid, lazy, c*nt, B*tch, w***e’….any attempts at her having a normal dating life are ruined by her children. They ruthlessly verbally attack anyone she brings around, which is alienating her.
No emotion. Calculating. ALWAYS negative. Narcissistic. Entitled. YET UNDESERVING!!!
I have limited my contact to her to just the telephone, because her children’s attitudes are sooooo TOXIC. I literally have to decompress after being around them for more than TWO minutes.
Other than trying to put her foot down, lay down some rules, I have NEVER heard her speak to them in an abusive manner. Her fridge overflows with food. They are provided with fashionable clothing, and activities that cater to their prospective interests.
But her children have chosen to treat her like a prostitute…and an ATM machine, and they destroy her adult relationships every chance they get….it is heartbreaking to watch.
It’s like she’s in an ‘abusive relationship’, but instead of it being with a man, it’s with her children! They are total SOCIOPATHS.
I’m saying all this because sometimes, IT REALLY IS THE KIDS!
The ‘authorities’ have tied the parents’ hands, while not assisting the parents when the child becomes uncontrollable.
I would urge parents to research all options at their disposal….including signing the kid and the rights to them away.
It is sickening….
Obviously the father did not go too far if this little punk is still alive to try and garner sympathy for his disrespectful actions!!! The problem with some children these days is that they think they can say anything to an adult (including their parents) that they want because if the adult looks at them wrong, the police will be called. I say “Good job dad!!!!!!!” I’ll bet that boy will think twice before he calls his mom that horrible name again!
Look at the dudes face. It is senseless trying to beat a child his age. The irony is that the young man referring to his mom in such disrespectful terms in part came from his anger/ rage. His father merely stooped to the young man’s level by doing what he did. How does smashing the young man’s face help him. The horse was out of the barn years ago.
Was it the young man’s father or step- father who did this.
This is the face of anger and hate.
The irony is if a white person did this to the young man’s face they would call it a hate crime and press charges.
It is obvious to me that what we are doing with our kids is not working. Look at the prisons. They are full of us.
Peace,
Cambie
If it is senseless to beat a “child” his age, then why do the police do it??? A young Black man does not have do do ANYTHING to receive a sever beating or killing by a police officer. And the courts back them up!!
Why does the law allow off-duty cops to beat people unconscious, shoot folks to death when it is a situation where the life of the cop is not threatened?? We see it all the time!
Why does the law kill innocent people that have been accused and convicted of crimes, and sentenced to death with insufficient evidence???
All this talk about abuse: let’s deal with the messages we get from the LAW, who has used domination and corruption to create chaos and lunacy in our society, and that has pit child against parent, brother against brother.
-severe-
Blossom I’ve seen you responding that this is right. Do you have any children of your own or are your emotional outburst based on brought about by past abuse that you feel all situations should be handled this way?
if that boy say something like that 2 his mother he will jump on his mother also
I’m sure there is another side to the story. but, I heard all I needed to hear he called his mother a b***h. Why call child protection services? He was big enough to call his mother a B***h, he is big enough to take that “good ole fashioned a*s whipping” Next time he will think about what he is thinking about saying. Just might save him from someone killing him. Total
disrespect
Black people are barbarians. You people are supporting this kid’s beating? I have had patients who accidentally hit their head on closet doors or simply fell in the shower and have Suffered subdural hematomas and have died as a result. If this father would have fractured this child’s skull or created any type of intracranial bleedif and this kid had passed as a result, would you idiots support his “parenting skills”.
Julius, I am 40 years old, from a Southern, Christian, rural, racially polarized agrarian community. I grew up BEFORE cell phones, atm machines, 500 channels of cable tv, and the internet. My parents are still alive and although we disagree sometimes, and they have said some things to me in anger that were so mean and hurtful I have wanted to never speak to them again, I HAVE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT TO CALL MY MAMA A B&#$H!! I don’t know Black people in my generation who have–and I’m including children of parents with mental disorders and substance abuse problems. You wanna know why?? Because corporal punishment was an integral part of our disciplining. Now, you call us barbarians. But we got this behavior FROM YOU PEOPLE. You were the ones who introduced this freedom of speech and thoughts and confused RIGHTS with PRIVILEGES. You were the ones who who popularized the idea of the rebellious teenager, and euphemized it under the umbrella of “finding oneself.” Now, I may be wrong in assuming you are white (but I don’t think so), but our discipline was strong and sancrosanct for a reason: YOUR fathers and uncles and older brothers were constantly, consistently waiting for one of US to walk out our front doors and make any semblance of a mistake….so you could justify KILLING US. Need I give you a quick history lesson?? No, I don’t. We’re still fresh off Trayvon Martin, right?? Anyway, YOUR pshycologists, psychiatrists, social scientists and social workers said it was ok to act like this. Now look at where it’s gotten US. You call us barbaric?? I’m willing to bet that young man said a lot more than just calling his mama a b***h too because that wasn’t just one or two punches. That was a full scale beatdown! Now, personally, I am from the school of thought that when you start ACTING grown, YOU NEED TO BE GROWN. I’m sure many of my brothers and sisters have heard of this. In my youth, that young man would have been thrown out of the house. After that beatdown. And he wouldn’t have been able to run to another adult for shelter and comfort because, once he told what happened (and mama would have set the record straight), nobody would support him in that bull&%%. i’ve said enough. but again, who’s the barbarian?
Ditto
Julius I agree with you, except for the seeming generalization that you infer in your comments that ALL BLACK PEOPLE OR BLACK PEOPLE ARE BARBARIANS. Yes there are some Black people that clearly need to rethink and refine their parenting skills. The kid above and in question was definitely ABUSED. Its sad that such disciplined practices have been practiced to a point that its unquestioned its become normalized abuse. I had my issues as a black teen, I was a HS teacher for 15y in some very troubled sections and have raised 4 kids with varying challenges at times, but none have never called me out my name and I have not had to lay hands on them with “whippings”. I have also had major challenges and issues with the kids I taught in urban areas with serious mental disturbances and behavior issues. IN those adverse times I excercised firm alternatives to get my point across and it worked to where the issue ceased with the kid. I did not have to lay hands on them nor call them out their name. They are all doing quite well and I am BLACK.
I hear that song by the Staples Singers RESPECT YOURSELF and some of the kids need to listen to old school and let old school teach them some things in life…..you feel me!
BLACXKCOBRA//PRINCE OF THA UNITEX STATES
Yes, the father did go TOO FAR!!! There is never a need for violence. This was a brutal beating which caused him to lose teeth. There was no need for all of that. When I was 9 yrs. old, I did something much worse than this to my mother. My parents did not knock me around. I went on to complete my education. I hold 2 degrees and I am living a wonderful life. I believe this man should be locked up and the child removed from the home IMMEDIATELY!!
Calling the police, who are usually the first ones to beat, maim, kill Black young men?????? Really??? What society are YOU living in???? Do you read the papers?? Do you look out the windows, or watch any news on TV or on the internet?? You are here on this site, so I know FOR SURE that you must have seen some of the videos and stories that chronicle SERIOUS abuse by police.
You say the parents should try group homes, that are notorious for abusing kids???? Where’s the non-violence in either one of your solutions??? How many children have we seen even recently that have died because of neglect by Child “Welfare” Authorities who often KNOW that the children are being abused in foster care and do nothing about it????
And by the way, you CAN’T TAKE A CHILD STRAIGHT TO A GROUP HOME. THERE MUCH THAT HAS TO BE DONE VIA THE COURTS ETC BEFORE THEY DETERMINE IF AND I SAID IF THEY WILL TAKE YOUR CHILD, especially a teen.
AND,,,,, how do you know that the parents have not already gone that route??? MANY parents around this country are suffering because they are not getting help with their teens from the authorities when they ask for it.
It is a long-standing problem that parents asking for their child with SERIOUS behavioral problems to be designated with PIN status (a person in need of supervision) are too often turned away by the courts, or are betrayed and become victims of investigations that make THEM look like they are abusive, when they are not.
I repeated this comment for you, Corbin, in reference to the child being removed from the home.
This was not a brutal beating ( no black eyes or other scrapes or bruising), this was a hit in the mouth!! That same mouth he used to call the women who gave him life, a B*tch!! You can best believe if he called her that, he thought he could whip his dads a*s… This is just proof that he couldn’t.
bet he wont call any woman a b***h from now on
Any time a child calls a parent a b***h…he deserves a beat-down.
@ Corbin56 You say the father went too far. I have seen women that were beaten by their sons. I work for Human Services. I have seen a lot. These days children are killing their Parent. We try to raise our children a new way. Not really punishing them. Society said talk. But a lot of these new kids don’t want to hear talk. Even little children are disrespecting their mothers and fathers because the parents don’t believe or they are afraid to hit the child. I was raised that you would have to eat your words (literally), if I called my mother a b***h. He should have knock his teeth right out of his head. I bet he will either respect them or leave. Those are the choice he needs to have now. He is lucky he is not out of the house completely now.
After reading more of the comments I see some say different things. One said they should have raise him better. You can love them, feed them, cloth them, teach them right from wrong and also teach them the Word of Jesus Christ but a child always grows up to have a mind of his own. We really have to pray that they absorb the teaching that you give them and live by it. But you can do all of the above and a child will still turn out to be a murderer, rapist, child molesters, etc…… It’s the way of the world. We need to Pray, Pray, Pray and keep on Praying!!!!!
Teach him the word of jesus christ? That is laughable. That word has gone a different direction from the OT. I know too many children raised in the words of christ acting like this hoodlum.
Thank you, Franchesca!!!!!!! Well said!!!!
This photo and the attendant comments (as well as yours, Dr. Watkins…”Did the dad go overboard? My answer is “probably yes,”). Probably yes?? If this young man showed up anywhere beaten this badly by a stranger, we would be outraged if the perpetrator was not charged with assault. The fact that this beating was delivered by his own father is a tragedy for everyone in that family. There is no possible situation (other than defending his wife’s life) where administering a beating this bad to another human being would be justified. That nearly all of the comments defend the practice just because of insulting choice of words is a perfect example of the deep-seated pathology and self-hate within our communities. Physical discipline teaches nothing but hatred and more violence.
His father didn’t go too far.I would have done the same.These bad a*s kids need their a***s beat.I wish one of my brothers would have said something like that to my mother…i would have beat one of them worst than that!!!
The dad lost his temper and control after his son called the mother the “b-word”. The father went to far. But as mentioned before this is probably not the first time this young man’s mouth got him into trouble. Domestic violence is never the answer. Uncontrolled anger can lead to murder. Not worth it – the physical wounds will heal. It the emotional wounds his mother will have to heal from.
The son was CLEARLY out of line. The scripture talks of how children are conduct themselves, it states: “Children,
honor your father and mother,” which is the first commandment
with promise: “that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth.”
This young man broke the rules, he went too far talking to his mother the way he did. His lack of respect for his parents caused things not to go so well for himself when he called his mother a B…tch. By doing this, he put his father in a difficult position, if the father didnt act as he did, the son’s perception of the events might assume his behavior was acceptable.This in turned caused his father to defend his wife honor—even though I feel the father could have handled the situation with a little less violence.
Violence solves nothing. There must be someway for these young ones to learn to respect themselves and others without a*s kickings and beat downs. Violence and disrespect IS part of the problem. Why add to the problem?
Lynn, that time out is for white folks. This should have been taught to this hoodlum when he was at least two to three years old. There is a old saying that goes, “a black woman have and a white man will raise.” In other words, the white man will raise this “child” as you call it in prison.
Just because you got a spanking because you did not get your way, it does not mean that it did not work with older black people.
BTW, disrespect cuts both ways, sweetie.
To you, Lynn and all the others that say there is another way:
WHAT IS THAT OTHER WAY TO HANDLE THIS??
Please tell me what the father should have done. Put the boy out of the house? What do you think the YOUNG MAN would prefer– a punch in the mouth or being put out?? I believe he would prefer to talking the punishment and live at home.
Young Kids get whippings , Teenagers and Grown Men who call my wife a b***h get their a*s beat down. I hope this young man learned something from this incident because another time,place and person this could have cost him his life . I’m old school and calling someone a b***h has always meant you were to fight or kick a*s !!
I agree with a majority of you all. I have sons-in-law and I have a daughter-in-law. Which I love them very much and very proud of them. They never rose their voice to me, there father will go off. But he never hit his children. But if any of his children would have called me b***h. Best believe he would kick them out of the house, or call the police, and then punch him out. My husband is 6′ 10″ 300 pounds. One punch from him they really be dead.
Its funny, in bible times the parents cast the first stone @ a rude disrespectfuL child, Marvin Gays father shot his & if you man enough to call my wife a b***h in my house like a man then you can take a man size a*s whoopin! Putting they hard headed rude a***s out will get you in trouble & the police bring em right back he should’ve got his a*s kicked. Bet he wont call her a b***h again! @ least till dem lips go down. Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROFLOL.
Loose lip will get your blank kick!
Its easy for us to comment with opinions because we dont know the story…working in the field with children I see good parents be disrespected by their children all the time and I see bad parents get loved by their children…I dont judge I just know what I would do as a parent and what would have been done to me as a child…I honestly believe that in this situation the whole family may be in disarray and aggression just got the best of the situation this time if he called her a b***h this wasnt the first time because no respectful child gets the courage on a random day to do that or would want to but he learned a lesson needless to say…I feel that if he posted these pics and didnt call the cops he knows he caused his on problmes
he was wrong for his mom out of her name that was just down right disrespectful but his father was in the wrong as well no child needs to have been beaten like this child was come on now does anyone really this was justifiable punishment for him i am like the dr. he should have put him out or called the cops not beat him like that the dad needs to be put in child for his actions as well i’m just saying there are other ways to handle kids and beaten them is not the answer especially not like that and vice verse kids should not put their hands on their parents
When you put yourself in a man or woman’s place, you get treated like you’re grown. He challenged hs mom and dad so he got an old fashioned beat down. Maybe his bi—calling days are over. I think Dad cured him. He is blessed, because if it had been my mama she would have handled it herself.
Regardless of what anyone says, from a purely legal point of view, if the child is under 18, he can go straight to the police and file charges against his father for child abuse. At that point, he will be taken into protective custody of the state, and the father will be arrested.
And if the child is 18 or older, he can still file charges against his father for simple assault and battery, because in the eyes of the law, simply calling someone a name is not a reason to be physically assaulted. Unless the person who beat him acted purely in self-defense, and was in no “clear and present danger” physically, that person will be arrested for assault and battery, pure and simple, regardless of whether or not the two share DNA…
My question is did his son keep fightin him back where it had to go this farer. I feel sometime i children go there for i had to beat mi daughter down also and face was bad but not as bad as this and police was call to my house. I didn’t have to jail for they told me next time beat her with a belt and not my hands but she took me there and she stop when she found out i was winning the fight. I hurt mi heart up now and mi daughter are cool and 2008 she told me that she glad i kept working with her until she got it right and that she love me. Now she got a son and one on the way i just hope the son did not keep fightin the father until he look like he do. Yes the father went to far but we need to asks ourself did the son kept fightin until he got his a*s beat down no we may not know who win the fight but the son face show u got that a*s beat good maybe he will think very hard before he call the mother a b***h that gave him life.com!! Peace
Yes it went to far then his son did to when i call the mother a b***h that gave him life. Now his son will know what a good beat is about best his father show him then everyone else which may would had killed him by using the word b***h so free. It make me think what made the son think he could away with trying that anyway somethin tell me his been trouble for a long time and they didn’t set it straight in the first places. Sometime is good to stop it when it first got started actting out and feel they didn’t do this until now where it got out of hand.
If this child is under 18 then the father went too far. If he is a grown a*s man-boy who thinks that he can disrespect BOTH of his parents then maybe his daddy just saved him from the bullet of the other guy whose mom might get disrespected by this kid. If you can’t respect your own mother then you are seriously screwed up and need a reality check. I never hit my child but I also raised her to believe that I had one element of crazy that could surface anytime that she thought she wanted to ever be disrespectful. She believed me so we didn’t have those problems.
Why did it escalate to violence tho? Obviously the parents are doing a poor job of parenting. These parents now-a-days don’t take their children to church, do any family activities with them, or introduce them to GOD! SMDH…The child needs to be removed from the home at the parents expense. Hopefully people will learn to utilize protection if u really don’t want kids!
You can grow up in the church and still be rotten.
Bull. The churches are full of people. I don’t know what you are talking about.
The Bible says that in the last days children would become disobedient to parents, and that they would betray their parents, giving them up to authorities.
The book of proverbs clearly tells u to raise a child accordingly, if they do fall astray, they return back to their natural upbringing. U must be one of those people having kids to see what they look like…LOL! U need to change ur way of thinking or just keep ur holes closed!
Butch, not true. I was a teacher in a public school last year, and I saw “perfectly good” children act a fool on a regular basis. The society we live in makes it hard for parents to take the authority necessary to raise kids. So many parents are just tired. Beat down emotionally. I’ve seen kids disrespect their parents in front of me, mostly because they didn’t get what they wanted at the time. They would say things to their parents that they wouldn’t dare say to me, and it was shocking to them for me to say, “Look, you will not talk to your parents that way, not in front of me.” Kids know that they are protected by law, and they play all of us–parents, teachers, administrators, the law–against each other. They can’t be beaten, time out doesn’t work because all they want is time alone to play with the million gadgets they’ve acquired, and you can’t refuse to feed or clothe or put them out of your house until they’re eighteen or face child abandonment charges. So many parents feel like their hands are tied. This was just probably a measure of ultimate frustration. and the ultimate insult.
if you let kids get away with no repercussions. he will assume that he is the man of the house with no repercussions to fear. the father was right. I’m sure he thinks he’s a man and so he was treated like a man when he received his beat down. You spank children. he knows that he was wrong.
Yeah the dad may have gone to far but some don’t do any thing because of DSS and the ones that dont go to far still get there kids taken because of them one saying they did
The father did not go far enough.
We don’t know the full story, but if I had called my white mother a b***h, she would have thrown the f*** down, if I had the b***s to say it infront my black father, I wouldn’t be alive. If that was my child, I would have had one of those black out episodes too. The lack of discipline is the reason these children are so horrid. I’m not saying put your kid the hospital but instill fear in that mo fo. And why does this kid still have his cell phone? That would have been my next punishment.
Exactly! I would have taken all his amenities. His room would have been stripped down to a bed. One of my friends was having disrespect problems with his teenage son. The son came home from school one day to find the door removed from his room; his tv, dvd, computer, cable, ipod, ipad, cell phone, everything…ALL GONE. For three months, the child had nothing but his clothes, a bed, and his books. So, the child got bold and decided to stay out past his curfew. Okay, my friend, the loving parent his (and his wife) were, changed the locks on the doors and alarm codes. So, the son decided to go live with his older brother. That was fine with my friend, and he made it clear that, since he wanted to be “grown”, he wouild allow such, but he would have to take care of ALL of his “business.” The older brother, who was working and going to college, didn’t baby him at all. So now, he had to find a way to get to and from school; get a job to take care of himself, and stay on top of his own business. The child bad-mouthed his parents to everybody who listened, and this hurt the parents really badly, but they stood firm. So, upon his stumbling towards graduation, he had the nerve to tell his parents that it was “their fault” that he didn’t get scholarships to college because he had to work and take responsibility for his life. They lovingly responded, “welcome to being grown. this is what you wanted, so this is what you got.”
I have noted that many parents say they have a biblical obligation to beat their children if the child curse at the parents. What should be done if parents curse in front of their children (husband/wives-live in s*x partners-deacons in the churches, etc…) or call the children curse words? Children-the youth learn their words from their parents, environments, or viewing media that the parents having their home. I wonder if these “beaters” would beat their children in an abusive manner if Jesus was at the door. NO!!!!
Its a different ballgame today. You can raise your kids correctly and they still sometimes turn out to be an a*****e. This fool here got what he justly deserved. I’m glad his father was there to protect his wife’s honor. He looks stupid too. Posting this pic online for the world to see. I’d be too embarrased. I hope his father told him to pack his bags too!!!
I do not feel that the father went too far. I work in education and have for over 20 years. Most of thr kids on the campus where I work have absolutely no respect for authority..They mouth off just like this young man did. I am sorry that he had to learn it this way, but at least he learned a lesson. I truly understand how the father felt. Kids call each other b*****s and much more and right in front of whoever and won’t blink and eye. So no, in my opinion,the father did not go too far. The father let him know who was the man and who was the little boy thinking that he was man enough to stand up in his parents house and call his mother a b***h…He will heal and hopefully very slowly…
New Age =’White’? what kinda racist bullshit is this? You have any idea where so called ‘New age’ originated? From the orients and the natives, aint no whites aroung those parts pardner.
Marilyn, I agree with you 110%. This child or teenager should not have been beaten as bad as he was. I also think that he could be hanging around the wrong crowd. I am sure you all know as well as I know that kids influence each other. Especially over time. A good ole’ b**t whipping would have been one thing. Even a slap or a couple of slaps in the face but a few punches in the face is way to much. Parents seem to forget that just like the kids these days can call the police so can the parents, when the child gets out of hand.
This boy.didn’t deserve this beating. N for.all u that said he did don’t act like you never made mistakes in life. How about somebody comes.and beats.your.face in like that and see how you like it for a mistake u made . This boy loves his mom just like 95% of people in this world love there mom. I’m sure this young man didn’t mean to disrespect his mom. I’m saying its wrong to call ur mom that but nobody deserves a beatingg like that. Picture your self maybe when u were younger maken a lil mistake n get beat down like that. I’m a mother myself and if my childs farther ever hit my son like that over him calling me a b***h I would simply beat him like he beat my son. N my child is mixed black and white. Nobody n I mean nobody deserves that. Yes punish them but a beating like that no cause u no u wouldn’t want mother farther brother sister aunt uncle anybody beating u like that
N as a mother it really ticks me off how most if u say he deserves this beating .most of u adults on here has cursed at ur husband wife brother sister whomever how would u like them punching ur far face in. Male or female were all equal black white Asian god made us all the same and equal This mother should have taken action her self. Period poiint blank. If this was My son he.would have gotten his privileges taken away a belt to his a*s n would be apologizing ..
@ BUTCH…..I only have 3 words for your response….”Pastor Creflo Dollar”. If you don’t find the article that tells what he did to his daughter then here’s 4 more words ….Gospel singer James Fortune.
Can’t we all just get along?
Hmmmmm I have a 15 yr old son, should he ever call me a b***h, a single mom, who feeds, clothes, drives, supplies food, supplies clothing, especially good warm coats, boots, nurses him when he sick, illness, pays for movies etc pay for everything, long story short. If my son calls me b***h, he won’t ever do it again his a*s would be in traction and a d**n comma!!!!!!! Despite popular belief, “b***h” is not a word that sit well with the sistas but d**n sure not a momma! He got what he deserved.
I agree no child should.call this mother a b***h especially if ur taken care of your child how your suppose to. But. how I feel is if u dont somebody beating u like that why do that to someone else. . My finance is soon to be a priest n sometimwe I curse at him and u no wat he tells me. ” I don’t curse at u nor anyone else so why do u curse at me. Point blank his farther deserves to get beat the same way. God don’t like ugly n this young mans farther is way beyond that.
Without adding extras as to what happened, I would assume that if this young man was so brazen to call his mother a b***h, he clearly was unafraid of the consequences nor gave any consideration that his father would not tolerate such behavior towards his wife, especially from his son. I don’t think his father just came and beat him down. I’m sure he had some choice words for his Pops as well to receive such a degree of admonishment. When it’s all said and done I’m sure he will realize the errors of his ways living in the group home with 7 other delinquents after his father is bailed out of jail.
What does the dad look like? Was the boy out of control and beating either of them? We shouldn’t pass judgment on what we speculate what may have happened. There’s definatly a huge difference between spanking and beating and children have no right to talk to parents like alot of kids get away with today. Its not a black or white problem either. Children need to know there are concequences for their actions and learn respect but at the same time abuse is wrong too. Its Just hard to say who was in the wrong or if the dad did go too far because we weren’t there and don’t know what happened
This young man has been pushing the envelope for a while it seems. You don’t just up and call your mother a b***h one day all of a sudden. There was a pattern of disrespect that was not addressed properly. You give someone an inch and they will take a mile. Every child is different, some you can just talk to and give them the side-eye; some require physical discipline — they are more willful and you need to reach out an touch them every once and a while. What is the same is that you must begin early; you must be consistent with discipline and you must model the correct behavior. He needed to get popped in the mouth, just sooner. And I’m sure the device he is using to post the video is being paid for by the b***h and the b***h’s husband. He still has not learned his lesson. Venture to guess that this is not the last fat lip he receives. Unfortunate. Hope he learns soon.
regardless a a*s whippin was in order! my kids are good kids i’m the trouble maker!!! how bout that!!! get em straight and they be straight!!! love em but won’t let anything go!!! they know that!!! can’t beat em no more!! i miss the old days!!!! my kids have thanked me over and over again!!! now i can’t even get them to jay walk ! i said say d**n it!!! they say dad why you trying to start trouble!!! i say you right, just testing you boys!!! hahaha
ma. steve
If you can call your mama a b**** and she or anyone else can hear you, there is no turning back. The ultimate disrespect, so daddy had to take it to the streets. He will learn not to be reckless going forward.Back in the day you learned real quickly about talking back under your breadth…Whop that a** before you have to bury him.
For those of you who keep screaming this is right should research the difference between discipline and abuse. Discipline when applied correctly, teaches a lesson. Abuse is based on rage and anger. No one knows what actually happened so we are basing this on assumptions, but even if the situation went as they said it did? The parents if they were doing their job as parents should have had this young man under control when he was a small child. When a child is brought up in a positive loving and nurturing environment where they are TAUGHT respect and it’s not BEATEN into them, incidents like this do not happen. Black parents like to do the knee jerk reaction when it comes to parenting. They wait until it’s too late when the behavior has become engrained in the child then they want to do a beat down and call it discipline. I was raised the old school way and I was taught to respect and fear and revere my parents. Never did any words of disrespect escape my lips and my parents never needed to beat me down to show me. I just knew. All this beating did was teach this young man that all situations should be handled with violence and when he appears in YOUR neighborhood with a gun in his hand robbing in killing, the next thing you are all going to ask is….Where were his parents?
@ RaisedTwoSonsandSurvived
You said much better than I ever could have… good post
The father definatly went to far. The son was wrong but it certainally could have been handled differently. I would never do this to my child or allow anyone else to do this. We do not know what the family dynamics are in this house hold but no child should be handled in this manor.
“Alright, alright, alriiiight.” I bet he “learned today”.
The only question I have for you is, Dr. Watson, have you ever called your mother a b***h in front of your daddy. I think not, calling the police should be the first reaction, but the police should show and leave just as fast as they came, after they hear the story. He deserved to have his a*s whipped, just like a lot so-called smart a*s kids who believe they can say or do anything they want and if someone puts them in check physically, they are bold enough to call the police on their parents. My experience was, I got my a*s whipped for something I had no business doing and when I mumbled the words that I was thinking about calling the police I got my a*s beat again and was told that I could call the police but I wouldn’t get to see them because, my parents would rather see my dead spend the rest of their lives in prison, than to let me decide on when and how I should be disciplined and turn into a habitual convict and burden on society.
Let’s just say he will be more mindful in his choice of words, and if he had a memory lapse of who his “Daddy” is, that became crystal clear. I think things are under control at this point
I had to choke my son one day. He was being disrespectful and squared off at me as if he “thought he could beat me” HE LOST really bad. I would have done the same thing in defense of the WAN regardless of whose child it is. NO MAN IS TO PUT HIS HANDS ON A WOMAN…especially her own child.
Lock me up on principle – it will happen again.
It seems every now and then young men want to physically challenge their fathers, even if it is something as minor as slap boxing, but to disrespect BOTH of your parents at the same time……well that is a horse of a different color!
Like many of you I also agree that if he (the young man) is not corrected soon (preferrably earlier in life) he will go through life feeling like he can do that to anyone, including a possible tired, scare or even a racist police officer. As you know back talk from young black men will not be tolerated by law enforcement and can end in tragic results
i know one thing, those kids that get those “time outs” and punishments w/o some wood put to them, are the one’s that rise up against their parents, disrespect their elders, and give their teachers problems, get suspended from school all the time etc. My mom would get us w/a switch back in the day. she never got us while she was angry. First, the talk. the talk was the killer. then the whipping. then I got sent to my room the rest of the day. then, at the end of the day, I got the biggest hug from her, and she told me she punished me b/c she loved me. I knew then not to rise up against her b/c i saw my oldest sister try to fight her. my mom was a young mom and my sister thought she was grown b/c she was a teenager and the same height as her. she always told us if we did that she would put (“that’s my child to the side”) and get us. she got my sister, so that taught me a lesson. Those spankings w/that switch paid off. it did not kill me and I thank God for it often. she instilled the fear of God in me, and 2day i am interdependent, no kids out of wedlock, not mooching off of folks, being fast and a hot-momma disrespecting myself, and saved by the grace of the almighty. In other words, my mom did it old school. I am that way w/my nieces and nephews and non of them are teen mom’s and dads and are on drugs.
From the looks YEA he took it too far and he beat the h**l out him…….HOWEVER—-for ANY parent to allow their child to get that out of control in the FIRST place ….WHO IS AT FAULT? There aint no way in the GD h**l on this earth would I have even had nerve enough to just write the word B#$&* on a piece of paper to call my mother…because for sure I would have woke up either in the hospital or the mortgue…..I can guarantee you this was not the first time this young man has gotten out of hand with his parents but he either took it to the limit or his father had had enough!!!!! We all know children try and get out of line with their parents but no matter how out of line I have ever gotten with my parents I WAS TOO SCARED of getting put out on the streets or coming up DEAD to think about taking my little anger to the point of calling my mother a B$^&*! Parents have to get control of their monsters early in life because if not just like Frankenstein the monster turns on the master!!!!—and are eventuallly let loose on society to turn on your children and mine….
Sometimes to save a life you have to get physical! Trust me some children warrant an beating. I have a very well mannered son, but guess what happened when he push the envelope. Now
I am starting to reap the benefit. I have step son that even an azz whooping could not help and he is dead because of his poor life choices. An Iron Fist is not a bad thing.
Dr. Boyce, this punk is lucky his father foot aint still logged in his @ss! I wish any child whether it’s mine or someone elses would call me a bee ich! We would be boxing!
Well, if he is living in his parents home, and the parents pay the mortgage, and utilities….they support him and have been taking care of him since birth…”He called his mommy a “b***h” …well he got off easy! I applaud the father for just beating the c**p outta of him and he was still able to post a picture to facebood or wherever…..(probably to a computer his parents paid for) he is lucky to still be alive to post the picture!
He didn’t go too far,and this Boy probably got out of line before! He owes his Parents respect,and his Dad put him in check,which is Dad’s job. It might have gotten the Young Man killed, in the street! He’s lucky to be alive!
He did the right thing that kid was dead wrong . kids are getting out of control really mom a b***h don’t think so . I would not be here today if I said that to my mom .. Good job dad !
They keep saying he didn’t deserve this, but it IS more to it. The kid didn’t just call his mom out her name he also got physical when dad first stepped in so if you man enough to start throwing punches or shoving then guess what…THIS HAPPENS!!!
Dr. Boykin:
Read between the lines? Uhummm ‘white’ psychology? I went to a HBCU and was the only white person in class with a group of black people studying the ‘white’ psychology in order to become psychologists. Why a race thing? It NEVER a black or white issue when you deal with abuse. Rather it is about teaching effective commulcation, self-regulation, and self-discipline. Creflo Dollar stated he would ‘never do anything to harm his family’; yet, he beat his daughter and was arrested. The question becomes one of the goals of the parent and the goal of the child’s behavior. If a man can beat his son, he sure can beat his wife and vice versa for wifey.
my opinion it really should not have went to this extreme in beating anyone because names are names and yes it hurts but we should have self control and I really don’t think the father should have went that far because its other remedies tht he could have done before beating his son. lets just keep the family in prayer because what people don’t know is that the son will never forget this day.
Cant say whether or not it was deserved…. But I can say that there IS NO POSITIVE that comes from an instance like that.. It wont make the kid respect his mother anymore than he did before he said whatever he said..
I had a friend who had a stepfather who would do this to him.
One time I was staying the night (we were around 15 yrs old) over his house and he had a brief argument with his mom when we came in the house. We went to sleep, and his Dad bust in the room at about 3 AM swinging.. Knocked my friend out and then he threatened to beat me up too!
I left right then and went home in the middle of the night..
Beating up your kids to an extreme degree will bring nothing but more problems..
People need to find other ways to solve problems… That type of sh*t has to stop.. It wont make the kids have more respect or act better… It only makes them more violent and more rpne to do that to someone else.
It also teaches them that violence to solve an issue is ok. But black people will not hear this because they are too busy talking about what happened in their rusted days of growing up and in essence these people have not yet grown up, but they want to be respected as adults just because they had pre-marital s*x, and had children. No one’s body was made to tolerate this type of abuse. The age of an individual does not matter, abuse can occur at any age and in many manners, that is why Adult Protective Services exists. I am so angered by some of the ignorant comments I have read on this board. If I or someone else did, to these so called adults, what they stated this young boy deserved, you can believe that they will call the police and press charges. This is stupidity and it is wrong.
DID HE DESERVE IT?!? That and more! Bet he won’t call her one again!!!
Things understood need not be explained, his father did what any man would have done to any man who called his woman a b***h, his son had it coming to him, when he place himself in that position and another a policeman would have beat him near or to death had he called him a b***h, the young man learn a life safeing lesson, he should go on Youtube and tell his father thank you for not killing me, and tell his mother he is sorry for making her cry when she brought him into the world.
I thank him for showing the world.
My son called me a btch and put his hands on me. My husband came to break up the two of us and the messed up thing is my husband was there for him for 15 years. He it’s with his biological who he just meet. No one it’s taking to me not even my family. I could have had him placed in jail. I don’t get it. This is too close to home. Too many emotions. If my son looked like this then maybe I can see my life playing out the way it is.
When a child wants to act like a grown up them people need to stop treating them like a child.
This is a sign of the times. Families against one another and no one standing up for what is right and biblical.
So, if the kid’s over 18, it’s not child abuse. He probably had a bad case of what old folks used to call “smelling himself,” so Dad gave him a little septoplasty. That could have been caused by one good punch.
He got what he deserved period
yo it didn’t say that his mother was a drug addict all it said was that he called her a b***h, i feel he should have gotten his jaw broken. who but your moms will hold you down even when dad decides not to be there moms will be. children today have gotten way out of hand and it’s time the parents take control back or if the law won’t allow them to give them up to the law. because if it’s my bill then it’s gonna be my will feel me
When I was young we got our behinds whipped on a regular, and now we conduct ourselves like adults should conduct themselves and this does not include disrespecting our mothers by calling them B*itches!!! This young man and all the other kids in the WORLD need their behinds whipped so that they will know there are consequences to their actions. People need to stop expecting parents to let these kids do what the h**l they want to do!!! You raise children, you don’t let them grow up without guidance.
“The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame” Proverbs 29:15.
There are many deciding factors that have been left out here. Let me start by saying no matter what u have tried to instill in a child, no matter what their upbringing, no matter what they have seen as positive examples they are going to do what it is they want to do. With that being said….if this child was reprimanded after calling his mother a b***h….by his father and then proceeded to jump bad with his father….I salute his pops. There are children that think they can beat the alpha male in the family…..I know, I have 5 sons and their dad is a strict disciplinarian and over the years I may not have agreed with his harsh a*s tactics, I know exactly whats in this world for young black men so I stand down. I hear my sons talk, and my youngest one always thinks he could beat his dad but the older ones always tell him ‘son u crazy’. So its always gonna be one. But thank God hes the one who rarely gets in trouble so I dont worry too much.
Back in the oldern days when you called a woman a b***h you had to be ready to fight. The father went a little too far but what about the other side of the coin. He may have enjected more of his foul mouth and the father just lost it. I am sure this is not the first time he have said the wrong thing to his mother or father it’s just that he got tired of it and went off.
All we know is that he called his mother a b**ch and his dad took matters into his own hands. These little heathens need to be taught a lesson sometimes, and sometimes they have to learn these lessons the hard way. There is no telling what else his little smart mouth a** was saying. When you feel as thought you have gotten THAT darn grown that you can call your parent out of their name, you have just made the decision to get your a** beat or get put out, or all the above. Any young man that doesn’t have respect for his mother will never show another woman any respect. I bet that from now on he will put a little more thought into what he lets fly out of his mouth from now on.
I stop reading the article. The way you write your article is a joke to me. Did he deserve the punishment…..yes… He is taking a picture with what phone who is paying the bill. Check out his clothing. If he had call a woman on the street a b***h, while she was with her man the punishment would have been different he would have had eye problems too… Kids are being raise to be disrespected n rude. If a mn is in the home let him be DADDY…., next Tim he might use a belt?
These are simply some peralous times for the black community. Dwindling education, and soaring black on black crime. The health of a race can be determined by the state of it’s households. One writer stated that this is the first generation that will probably not out achieve more than their parents. Core values are lacking. Leon Powe, the former Boston Celtic from Oakland, lived in a car and kept his siblings together while in high school. His mother was on drugs. He loved her until the day she died. Women are the glue that holds the black family together. Once our women become irrelavent in the home, the outcome is dire for the family.
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Let’s get real I am 45 if I had called mom that word I would have never gotten to take the picture, period. Not from dad mom would have finished me off!
To far in my opinion! what if he had died? Would the father feel justified? And also you would have to know more of the situation,was dad always abusive and this was just another reason to hit him? Was dad drunk and has always called the mother names in front of his son? Or had the son been rebellious for awhile and had just finally pushed dad to the breaking point? You would really have to know the whole story to know .But hope there is peace in that family whoever they are soon no matter what the cause!Just pray for a good outcome from a sad situation!
Parents should receive fines in restitution and 1 year in a federal prison for this. Regardless of what he did, this IS UNACCEPTABLE.
Parenting has a lot to do with it however, the young people today have something else going on with them: they don’t have the fear of God in them. It is my opinion that in about 25 or 30 years, we may find out that there was something in the formula they drank as babies which was a government experiment. Also, too many babies are having babies and they aren’t teaching them. I was at the mall recently and I saw a couple in their 20′s with a small boy about 2 years old with his pants sagging. Poor baby couldn’t keep up with his parents because his pants kept falling and the mother was screaming at him telling him to “c’mon on”. And to think if he grows up, he’s my future….
Wasnt there so dont know what might have been the whole story but I do believe this is TOO much. If punishment was the intended goal then put his disrespectful behind out. I feel that the parents have obviously shown the young man something that made him think that the behavior was acceptable. Regardless of what he does we dont know what he has seen… maybe dad disrespects mom, maybe dad beats mom, now we know that this boy feels that the “B” word means someone has to leave the confrontation like this. What female hasnt been called a b***h… its no cause for this young man to end up like this and still be allowed to remain in a home… looks like he is in his home taking the pic. This whole family has problems… he actually posted this pic as if he doesnt think the authorities might see it… Society… boy I tell ya!!!
This kid stood as a man. When he called his father’s wife a b***h, the father had a right to defend his wife against any bold man. He would not be a man if he stood there and let this man defame and truduce his wife in front of his face. I feel that this father snapped. Just as if a man touched his wife in front of his face He deserves to be hurt. Your mother is your gardian angle apointed to you by God. She will give her life for you. I saw this child’s face, SORRY but he asked for it. If you put him out, you are still responsible for him. The law will make you take him back in. ( If you take this mom and dad, guess what what I have waitting for you?)He will own you for the next (five years) A x friiend said to me that she had her father arrested because she had s*x in her parents bed. Her father cought them, He tried to kill her. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO TO THIS CHILD AT THE AGE OF 16?
My dad is a firm but gentle man. Yet he made it absolutely clear to us (me & siblings) that mom was to be treated with respect. If ANY person – especially a man – assaults his wife (verbally or physically), they would have him to deal with. My parents have been married now 48 years.
I married a man just like my father. Silent, strong (physically and psychologically), yet gentle. Our children know – without doubt – that “daddy protects us.”
I can’t imagine my husband EVERY initating violence against anyone. Yet, I also know that if ANYONE tries to hurt me, they will face his wrath. Period. If that person happens to be an uppity young man who think he’s grown? Well, he’ll soon know what it means to be grown.
Note – this doesn’t look like a “beating.” It looks like the injuries of one well-laid punch.
Dr.. that is just to bad this young man had to get it that way… but if he was on the streets in this society talking to somebody else mamma the story may read a little different “when the police arrived they found a young black man dead on the scene”…..
The Father was right, and lets hope the son learned his lesson to never disrespect her!
Well it was said in one comment “I don’t know if the son won the fight”, well if he did (from the look of this picture) the father must be dead. Someone stated he didn’t deserve this, well Rodney King didn’t deserve his beating.He might be glad to learn from a Black Snake than a Rattle Snake. For every action there is a reaction.Lesson learned.
If this is true, one reason the boy felt he had the liberty to call his mother a b**** is because no father taught him and modeled anything better for him.
@ omicronili
Your statements are so true, if only we had more like you. Because when I read he called his mother a Bi*$#, that did it for me. i didn’t have to read anymore. He needed his a*s beat down, it’s evident he thought he could beat his fathers a*s, lol., WRONG, kids should stay in a kids place.
kids need 2 stay n there place..but again we cant realy raise our kids the people thats running the world is the reason y kids r growing up the way they r….they took wooping out the school..n your home…the gave your kids the right 2 say n do the thing they do…think about it..kids no if they mother r father hit them they can call the police…so now they talk back 2 thier parents…talk back 2 their teatcher…they fight their parent they fight their teacher…so wat u exspect out these kids 2day…they has no respect for anybody…not even the police…they dont give a danm about the police…..wrong is wrong if your child do something wrong you should have the right 2 spank them….but u dont..this is your child…..this is not the police child…and they should not have the right 2 shoot and kill them wen they do wrong ..put them n time out like they wont us 2do….think about it ..they can shoot n kill our kid wen they do wrong… kids pull a gun out on them…r run from them they have have all that right 2 kill them n i dont think thats right …but u cant woop your own wen they raise there hand at u r hit u r talk back….so we cant realy raise our kids 2day… so i dont feel sorry for that boy…thats better than wat the police would have done 2him if he had said that 2 them…but all of this stuff that is going on n the world 2day is the people who make the rules n this world…..they made these kids the BOSS..we dont have the right 2 woop our own kids…they should not have the right 2shoot n kill some body elses kid …..
Hey everyone,
This is just my opinion, it appears to me that this man child do not know who he is, and what are his roots, his purpose in life. Apparently, the parents are not talking to this child the way they are suppose to do, and not yell or curse at him just to tell him something. I feel there is no love there and we let our children watch these hip-hops and rappers and they start to imitate them therefore its truly is not the childs fault that he was not taught anything. It all goes to their parents, why would you bring a child to this planet and do not teach them anything, about this world we live in and racism, slavery and the reason why we as a people went through this; prepare your children so they may know themselves. Like the Prophet Noble Drew Ali says you have to “Know Thyself” and here lies the problem not knowing yourself. Give that child something to such as “The Isis Papers by Dr. Frances Cress Welsing, “Two Nation by Andrew Hacker, Black Labor White Wealth by Dr Claud Anderson, Ed.D. And their are others Black Scholars to look up and read, read, read.
This is how i see it first of all these parents today are out of their minds just because your the parent does not mean you have the right to call your child all kinds of horrible names punching and hitting any kind of way and and turning em into your personal slave is not what you call being a good parent you do all of these things but you want respect how bout you show your children some respect and they won’t disrespect you plus when yall a***s start getting old your gona wonder why they never come around people never forget times when another that cause them pain
This young man called his mother a b–ch. His father showed him what a b–ch would do for him. If my son called my me anything out of my name, it would be the same thing. The nerve of him to fix his mouth to call his mother anything like that. The fact he is still alive should make him grateful.
I would venture to day, that this beating was probably because when his dad called him on what he said to this mother, the child got in his father’s face talking smart and got just what he deserved and that was a beat down. As far as getting whippings causes you to be violent, hockey puck. I go whippings and disciplined and I am not in jail, nor am I violent unless someone acts that way towards me. I am educated, taught school, and social work. So much for that theory. This discussion will go on and on, folks will continue to discipline and whip, some will not.
You can do only so much, going to school with others who he may have seen do their parents that way and decided to come try it out. Guess he knows now how that would end. My daughter did something stupid (not that bad) but stupid just the same. I beat her tail and handed her the phone and told her to call the police since she treatened to call 411kids anyway. I told her to tell them to hurry up as I was gonna beat her again as soon as she hung up the phone. And no one is bragging about it or boasting. I’d rather do it than have the hard streets teach her. Yes….I know he did the right thing…but if it had been my son calling me a B his father would be the one picking up the pieces and calling the police as he would be zapped from the earth. He would have embarrased us anyway later on in life.
TeeSharee….nobody said they did all that you conjured up in your post. Maybe that’s something that happened to you and you are expressing how you feel now. When kids get around other kids some just test to see how far they can go, little by little. You’re telling them the whole time, don’t do it. Maybe grounding didn’t work, maybe they did everything they could think of and he still decided he wanted to TEST the water. Well I guess he found out the water was HOT. Yes, kick his b**t, that he will remember when he thinks about calling any woman a “B”, talking sometimes is not enough.
This looks like an assault, but without the whole story no one knows. Did this kid get into an altercation with his father? Under what circumstances does a son call his mother a b***h? Seems likely there was a domestic dispute and perhaps the father was physically protecting the mother from the son. Who knows.
The lord say to respect your parents.his father showed him what happens when you want to be about that life. acting out and calling women out there names, including his own mother. This is what happens when you step up like you grown. Its the husbands job to protect his wife and he ain’t about to sit back and watch the son they gave birth to belittle his mom. The old saying goes.. “I brought cha in this world.id take ya out”
I honestly need more information. Why because kids today are OUT OF CONTROL! I want to know his fathers side of the story. When the father stepped in, did the son step to him as if he was just a kid his age outside, or did the father just commence to knocking his head off?
I dont’ know why but I think the kid based on the children of today, probably deserved it.
It’s sad to admit, but between flash mobs, random street attacks on individuals, shooting at law enforcement, and let’s not forget when children are away from home what happens when they are in school. Lack of discipline is apart of the problem.
Look why does it have to be the parents fault. You can raise
A child the best you can but it doesn’t mean that they will automatically abide to your wishes. Example, I am a single mother and I have had to raise my son practically by myself. But I always felt that at some point my son would need a males prospective. I talked to my son constantly about the right things to do and sometimes spanked him for things he would do but he still had to experience the consequences of making poor decisions. I have came to the realization that some people just have to feel the fire even if they know the right way. What this father did may very well be wrong and he may have to suffer consequences but the truth is did it help this young man or did it push him farther into his troubles what every they may be.
Bernie Mac said it best “you old to talk back, you old enough to get f****d up” Case Closed.
He called his mom ‘b***h’, he fought with his dad, he obviously lost the fight. He posted the result on FB. If he is this grown dad, don’t risk your freedom fighting with him. If underage put him in Juvy and if 18 or older, put him in the street.
He learned that kind of behavior somewhere. How much you wanna bet it was at home? Whether we all think it was justified or not, if he was a minor, the least his father will have to worry about is showing up in court, but he might end up in jail on child abuse charges. You know what happens to child abusers in prison right?
If your kid is so disrespectful and you feel so threatened by him that you have to knock his teeth out, then that child needs to removed from your home. Call social services before EVERYONE ends up in jail.
I teach my boys not to let other people’s bad behavior get them all caught up. I bet that boy and his father wish they learned that lesson before this happened.
I’m with Elizabeth, although I’ll tell you- had I said something like that to my mother I probably would’ve looked similar, and my father would’ve only hit me the one time.
Lets face it…anytime you can call your own mother out her name like that, it is a serious problem. Unlike some on here, I do not agree that the blame lays solely with the parents…some kids are just bad kids.
I feel absolutely no sympathy for this kid…in fact, I’m of a mind like his father- intellectually speaking, I know Elizabeth and others like her are right, but as a father I can totally understand the dad doing what he did.
Truth…indeed.
I see nothing wrong with his punishment, if he called his mother that. He’s still living so he made out pretty good if you ask me. These kids are WAY out of control and parents need to stop trying to be that best friend.
As a parent of a young black male, I personally feel if this has to be your method of punishment you failed your child long before the first punch was thrown. Although he was disrespectful, I am sure this came from esculated situations. The child shouldnt be allowed to stand and argue with a parent like he is grown. This is what causes the confusion. The father should also explain to his son that using terms to degrade women is wrong. Unfortunately, these are lessons the child should have learned prior to being allowed to use a phone after you just called your mother out of her name.
It’s going to be a while before his lips will be able to say the word b***h.!
I am wondering where this young man learned this behavior. Considering the brutality of the punishment, perhaps he learned it at home.
Do you really need to even ask that question? It is not only alright for a parent to discipline their child it is their duty. But if they are doing it out of anger and frustration, puttin their hands on their child in rage instead of disciplining from a calm, decisive place they are an abuser, str8 up. What is almost as brutal as what this parent did are the ignantass comments that try to defend it. There is no excuse.
How do we know he called her a b***h? Was part of the punishment for him to post the picture so others could see the damage?
We don’t want to rush to judgement, because we don’t know what is going on behind closed doors . I am from the old School, so I have had my behind whooped, when necessary, but I never got boxed like I was in the street.
A few years ago, one of my friends didn’t take her father in upon him getting sick. I thought it was the meanest thing a person could ever do. I later found out that she was abused by him through her teen years. The fight that went down with her mom during high school was caused by her telling her mother that she wasn’t protecting her from this mans abusive ways. Needless to say she called her mom a b***h…it was out of anger-I’m not saying that she was wrong, Im saying things can sometimes lead up to certain things…
I’ve read the story and majority of the comments. On some points I agree with Grandmother. The boy put himself n a man’s place. I too was raised ol school and he should have gotten his but tore out the frame. Where the he-eeeell does he get off disrespecting his Mother like that! Kids all over the word these days just seem to be crazy. I do not blame the parents period. No matter what’s been published there r NO manuals on how to raise children. The few books that r out there r written by childless people.
I have one child and I know that I raised her too the best of my ability. Her Father and I divorced when she was three, but I had a wonderful friend who stepped right n and raised her as his own. For intents & purposes this was her Daddy. She knew her biological Father and never n her life did she disrespect him. Now I was a different story. I also had a great support system with people she admired and looked up to and respected. She had role models who coached and taught and instilled values and morels as well. And still she lives as though she was raised in the street.
These days kids learn most of this disrespectful c**p in the streets they don’t get it at home. Today kids do not respect anything at all , not themselves, adults, not even death, certainly not life!
So if they want to be grown they must be treated that way! Maybe Dad should not have kicked his b**t that bad, he most certainly should have stomped that a$$!!!!
We do not know the entire story. However, If this child had the nerve to call his mother a b**ch, then I’m almost positive that when his father attempted to whip his azz that he swole up on his father and attempted to hit him back.
Most parents just don’t beat their kids to pulp. However, kids will try you especially teens. Personally, my son raised up on me and I whipped his azz. Not because I was trying to hurt him but because I would NOT allow a child that I raised to have me afraid in my own home. Discipline with love always.
I’m from the old school respect is a must because we all have authority over our own heads hanging being an adult does not mean we don’t have to answer to an authority figure!! This young man from what we hear from the one side of this story is he disrespected his mother and Poops steps in as I and most loving fathers would.In the defense of his wife the boys mother as I would have done she was my wife before the boy became my son.True no father should ever take it to this level but I say if he disrespects his parents he will learn a much harder way from the streets.If a child does not fallow a good parents roll with the child’s best intrust at heart then he will not leason to a judge because he will end up in front of one and then wish he had leasoned to his parents.hihishparents
Some kids just have a heads made of rocks thinking they can just do and say whatever they want I’m a proud widower of two good kids Ive razed them by myself most of there lives. My son and I have bumped heads many times over going to school and doing what I expect from him as well as his younger sister.I dictate what can and can’t go on in my house the house I made a home of for my kids. They will one day have a house that they make a home of for there kids and If they have any of there father in them they will then understand why I did what I did in razing them the way I did as well as why I was the dictated.I always had my kids best intrust at heart knowing the streets don’t give a dam about them.KIDS IF YOUR READING THIS PLEASE DO WHAT YOUR PARENTS ASK AND EXPECT FROM YOU THEY DO WHAT THEY DO FOR YOU OUT OF LOVE WITH A CARING HEART IF THE PARENT IN QUESTION IS A GOOD PARENT BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE ARE SOME a*s HOLE PARENTS OUT THERE WE SEE THEM DAILY.
Hey I feel like this. If a child want to act grown treat them as such. Dont play oh im only a kid when the consequences of your actions come upon you….
Allow me to ask the following:
Did the kid treat his mother appropriately? Do you think this kid was physically stronger than his mother? Do you think his knowing he was physically superior influenced his decision to mouth off and call the women who birthed him a b***h? We all must pay a price to receive lessons in life that help to shape who we become. Do you think the father’s whipping taught the son a valuable lesson that will help him become a better person? Do you think this boy will forget the lesson he father taught him about disrespecting the father’s wife and the son’s mother? I don’t feel sorry for the kid…He got what more kids need to receive when they decide to disrespect their parents. My mother always told me “I brought you into this world and I’ll take you out.” I believed her and had a healthy fear of my mother. That healthy fear kept me from doing things I knew my mother would not like. I’m with the father all the way….It’s a poor a*s that can’t stand a good whipping that’s needed. If all parents whip their kid’s a***s when they are young and need it, the system won’t have to whip their a***s when they grow up and decide to do that which will land them in jail.
It’s about CONSEQUENCES. Had he called the wife of a stranger out of her name, do you folks believe the stranger would have tried to reason with him?
NO.
Nor would the stranger have any reason or incentive to stop, like the father did. Again, I state the injuries appear to be those from one very well placed punch – not a beating – which would have rendered him unable to even take that photo.
No self-respecting man I know would sit by idly and do nothing as his wife his assaulted.
As for this kid – evidence of the outcomes of the lack of consequences and accountability. This is what happens when kids are not held accountable. Empty threat are just that . . . empty.
This man is entitled to his opinion about his mother. If he were smarter, he’d think TWICE about how, when, where he expresses such opinion.
Similar to a racist . . . you might not like me, nor want to work with me, and may be a card carrying member of the Klan off hours . . . but while at work, you have no choice but to treat me with a modicum of respect . . . as I am required to do the same for you. Either of us step out of line, there will be consequences.
Again, this “kid” doesn’t appear to be waifish or weak. What his father did to him appears to be much less painful than what my husband would have metted out. Hopefully he learned his lesson about CONSEQUENCES.
I’m sorry but I had to look at the picture quite a few times because to me the picture does not look as bad as some are claiming. The young man already had lips so the father did not make them any bigger than they were. Just a little blood coming out of his mouth but all teeth are accounted for. Under his right eye, his father caught him good but it looks as though he closed his right eye and squinted to make sure he was capturing his entire face in the camera. Some do that when they try to take pictures of ones self in the mirror. With that being said, if he doesn’t like the way his mother acts or treats him then he needs to get a job or two and move his fresh and foul mouth out his parents’ residence. If he’s man enough to call someone that is paying the bills out her name than he is man enough to get the heck out and handle his own business. Hopefully his father is not paying that cell phone bill, If he is he needs to cut that sucker off quick. Pay the early termination fee and tell grown b**t to pay for his own dang phone, food, housing, etc.
Ditto what TraceyB stated. In addition, he is lucky he was able to take a picture. His father was totally justified because if he can disrespect the person that nurtured him what would he do to anyone else?
my mother rasied 7 kids by herself in chicago and baltimore after my father left.no dropouts teen moms or jail birds.she ruled with a iron fist,she is 80 yrs old and still will get on our butts .she would have beat us half to death for this mess this guy pulled.
Sorry, but I’m so glad that some people are still disciplining their children. I’m old school – used to get whippings with ironing cords and broomsticks. The next time he thinks about calling his Mother, the woman who brought him into this world and took the time and the pain of those 9 months, a B**ch with that mouth, he’ll close it and remember – his father might hear about it. Good for you Dad. Run your house – isn’t he old enough to move out?
I like the fact that this father stood up for his wife. Great example! Too many of these kids going around here calling their Mom’s and other women “B’s” and “hoes”; disrespecting them. smh I hope this taught that young man a lesson about disrespecting his mother and women. He should be thankful that he is not in the hospital. I grew up under the ol’ skool beatings and I turned out fine. He’s good. Good for him!!!
first of all if that boy is 18 or younger yo a*s is going to jail.i might only be 12 but i know no a god d**n parent should not put there hands on their kids.you don’t even think about the concequenses.that was a sad father who put his hands on that boy
people who r saying he got what he deserved ,r total a******s.i dont give a s**t how mad he made his mom .dont put your hands on that kid.yall people will never learn
bye n all of yall r sad
I can understand an a** whooping and sometimes it is well overdue for some of these disrespectful kids these days. But that was just a lil too d**n far. He not only disrespected his mom, dad, but himself & that is all understandable, but y not just put him out or call the police as you stated. I can also understand a lil where the dad is coming from, if I dont teach you, then the streets will kill you. Atleast you are alive and know what to do the next time. Warning before destruction!!!!
Just to add to the convo… I agree with you Pachonette H. it was that he thought he could whoop his dads a*s for defending his mom ansd hw showed him different. I also agree with Awakened 1. He didnt have to go that far. But it is a lesson learned for him and all that comments.
somebody aut 2 woop yo a*s and see how it feels b*****s