Black Democrat Turned Republican: “Most Blacks Don’t Equate Gay Rights With Civil Rights”
According to black democrat turned republican Artur Davis, you can’t compare Civil Rights with gay rights.
“When you say to African-Americans, ‘the gay struggle is the black struggle,’ they don’t buy it,” Davis explained to The Daily Caller.
Davis was an Alabama Democrot before he decided to move over to the other side of the aisle for better opportunities. He currently lives in Virginia and is planning to run for Congress there.
Davis said in the interview that the prejudices blacks experienced, such as exclusion from the voting booth, job opportunities and colleges, and the threat of violence against them, were far greater than any prejudices experienced by the gay community.
“African-Americans were completely, in every sense of the word, marginalized,” he said. “They were also the poorest group in the United States. With all due respect to gay Americans, that’s not the condition of the gay community today.”
Davis says this is why Obama’s announcement of support for gay marriage made many African Americans uncomfortable.
“Many African-Americans think there’s a virtue in men marrying women because it means mothers and fathers, frankly. That’s their real stake in the issue,” he said. “There’s no question that the African-American community is a monolithic liberal community on economic issues, but it is a much more conflicted community on social issues.”
He also explained that the GOP can’t just use its conservatism to recruit minorities, it must show how market based principles can help pull people out of poverty better than government programs can. .
Comments
Powered by Facebook Comments
I respected Artur Davis when he ran for congress here Alabama. He show great support for the black community and for the president. I believed that the he would be the voice for the millions of us living in the “black belt,” the poorest area in our state. But, I was wrong! He gained ambitions for becoming our state’s governor and we supported that, bit the problem came he decided that he did not need the black community’s vote to we. He somewhat ignored us, and as a result he lost our trust and the his campaign! I was not suprised to hear that he defected to the republican party- I guess it is better than facing his mistakes and apologizing to those who supported him.
I do not totally agree with all his comments, but the gay rights right and our civil rights right are not the same. My problem with the this issue is that we sit and judge homosexuals and say nothing of the immorality of those who commit the other sins. Homosexual marriage harms the sanctity is marriage? Well according to statistics black women are less likely to be married. We have a crises of the black family! Our sons refuse to be fathers and husbands! Our women continue to be come single mothers! Where is the black church on this? Improper teen parenting, where is the black church on this? We have larger issues as a whole than worrying about allowing gay people their right to marriage or civil unions!
Does the religious community have a heaven or h**l to pit them? Can it afford to cast a stone? We all know what the bible says, but we also know that there are those who use it to suppress and oppress people. This is not a theocracy, remember separation of church and state. I leave with this question for the black church and the community as a whole, how can we be against gay marriage, but reap the benefits of the gay community?
This is not news
Davis is absolutely correct because I have always felt this way. However, Davis’s opportunism in switching parties and talking about the market place being better than the government belies everything he supposedly represented in Congress in Alabama. Then again the south is a hopelessly racist conservation political bastion that is getting worse by the moment, especially with the new KKK/neo-Nazis(alias the Tea Party) on the rampage and I’m afraid Davis has fallen in line with that group.
Who wants to listen to ANYTHING a black turn-coat Republican says ?? Someone please tell him he does not speak for the African American community. And while you are at it, please ask him to return his ‘Negro’ card.
lol. Pudding – that was sweet.
Pudding, that was sweet.:-)
This discussion has quickly become a stale and useless debate and past time for anyone within the public sector or private citizens to put forth on debating if Black Civil Rights is the same as Gay Rights. That really is not the core issue. Its about having reverence for humanity and respecting that those within the LGBT community have experienced alot of discrimination due to their s****l orientation. Women, Handicapped people, Jews, Immigrants, Latinos, Obese People and others have been discriminated in a plethora of ways and had their rights threatened. They have fought for their civil rights aswell. However, its just that the Gay Communities plight does share remarkable similarities in their struggle with Black people: Using the bible to condone their inferiority, denied housing and jobs, Ridiculed with baffonish characters in the media, Treated as secondary status and ignored based upon what can not be changed by most (s****l orientation) despite some gays being able to pass as straight as some blacks were able to pass as white, and both experience high amounts of violence, although blacks history of violence and abuse is unparralled.
Cut the bull. Being gay is not natural, being Black is. Being Black will never compare to sexually deviant lifestyle and preference. And if civil rights east a black issue, the HOMOSEXUALS need to STOP comparing their gay rights to blacks, especially insinuating that being gay is the same as being Black. Stop trying to have it both ways.
Its funny you say that. Whites said the same thing about us being black. It wasn’t natural to be black. In fact, they used the bible to condone slavery. Read a book, would you please. The black community needs thinkers and leaders not thugs and followers
CONTINUATION:::: The reason why this arguement is debated by many regarding equating black civil rights with LGBT rights is because many blacks seem to be impacted with the stigma of homosexuality and are unable nor do they want to attempt to reconcile ethnic identity with something that is also negatively stigmatized. So what happens is many work to dissassociate the two plights in an attempt to not have the other further stigmatize or stain their own legacy of struggle. The fact is all of humanity has always been in the closet, as well as perpetuated and experience bigotry, prejudice, and discrimination on a personal and collective level. Its just time for people GET OVER IT. We are on this planet to evolve and evolution requires greater inclusive understanding that is reverent and sound beyond bigotry and unquestioned irrational fears found within racial and s****l discrimination.
it is as simple as this….and you do not need to go any farther…..if you are a white gay man you can hide it if you want to…so it wil never be problem for you …i’m dark skin black and love that i am….this is why i have been held back and still being held back…but now it the black men and black women fault for not build their on ….you got to see the movie “{there eyes is watching god}”…halle berry…
it is as simple as this….and you do not need to go any farther…..if you are a white gay man you can hide it if you want to…so it wil never be problem for you …i’m dark skin black and love that i am….this is why i have been held back and still being held back…but now it the black men and black women fault for not build their on ….you got to see the movie “{there eyes is watching god}”…halle berry…
it is as simple as this….and you do not need to go any farther…..if you are a white gay man you can hide it if you want to…so it wil never be problem for you …i’m dark skin black and love that i am….this is why i have been held back and still being held back…but now it the black men and black women fault for not build their on ….you got to see the movie “{there eyes is watching god}”…halle berry…
ABSOLUTELY
Black Democrat Turned Republican: “Most Blacks Don’t Equate Gay Rights With Civil Rights”
How can this Selllout talk about what black folks think?
He even had the nerve to frame this wrong. What he should have said: Most blacks don’t equate Gay Rights with ‘Blacks’ Civil Rights. Civil Rights are not just a black issue. But they have been violated the most on black people.
Lets try this. lets remove the religious angle from this argument and just try to inject some common sense. The issue of gay rights isn’t a civil rights issue it is a population control and natural order issue. The gay rights issue is connected to the Eugenics movement of decades ago which was about controlling the population, especially the black population. Gay couples don’t have babies. Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned parethood was connected to that movement. Ask yourself this question. What would happen in the scientific community if the male and female species in the animal kingdom started trying to mate with the same s*x. Would the scientific community just shrug it off? No. there would be panic. Why? Because they understand that that would be the end of the species. I doubt if it would mean the end of the human species but it will certainly cull the population.Also, a can of worms has been opened up as far as discriminationis concerned. I have heard people like Jessie Jackson say discrimination under no circumstances. Ok,suppose somebody wants to marry their pet. Don’t laugh because I understand some are calling this the new civil rights movement and I heard it came up in Europe. Or suppose a 45 year old guy wants to marry his 25 year old daughter. They are both consenting adults. Should these things be allowed to happen? Using the logic of no discrimination under no circumstances, these examples should be allowed to happen because prohibiting these things woud be discriminatory. Law suits could be filed.Proponents of this insanity have opened a can of worms where anything goes and history tells us that that is how empires fall.
I find your comment based in a false sense of logic. Most blacks dont read so its no point discussing history, economics, or any of the sort with them. Two men or women marrying is not the same as a man marrying a pet. And the fact you used that type of argument to support your claim that black issues arent the same as gay issues shows a false of reality. Gays marched with blacks in the 60s. which opened the door to the ‘gay revolution’ of the 70s. I also want to point out the government endorsing marriage is actually a violation of church and state.
My next issue with your statement is how empires fall. Your ‘anything goes’ statement is complete B.S. Lets look at the Roman Empire. During the reign of Constantine, the nation was falling apart. Christianity was growing and paganist were igniting a war. In a effort to protect the empire Constantine united them under Christianity. yet this wasnt enough because almost a hundred years later the empire split over religious issues.
The same could be said about the Europeans. For nearly 500 years, Europe was enveloped in a religious war between the Catholics and Protestants. Not to mention the crusades, a thousand year war between Muslims and Christians. All in the name of God. So I find your statement highly inaccurate.
If America falls, it will be because we were unable to unite and accept those different from us. Not because we allowed Gays to have civil unions.
With all the rant and venom coming from many in the black community it make one wonder if the racist title also fit them they seem to be anti any thing that is white just because a person is white, we in the black community if not careful can get caught up in blatant hate for any ony that does not look the way we look, is not this what the other side does and we get angry. The way some express themselves with vulger language and profanity is utterly shameful, no wonder that our children grow up to disrespect our young girls as the rappers with this video of a six year old child rapping about “Booty Pop” if not careful he will be up for rape in the near future, things like this destroy our community more than a rebel flag.
Spoken like an apologist that had never read the gay white message boards. Vulgar, racist, and hateful us par for the vitesse among white gays. Save your admonishment and disappointment for them because that will not fly here.
Excuse the typos. using my tablet.
Though I’m not a republican, I agree with Davis’ statements on the BLACK Civil Rights being compared to the sexually deviant lifestyle and s****l preference of homosexuals.
And if civil rights east a black issue, the HOMOSEXUALS need to STOP comparing their gay rights to blacks, especially insinuating that being gay is the same as being Black.
Leland is right on point, and whether this man is dem or rep does not matter. No matter who is in the White House my beautiful African peole suffer. Onmyway2012, is also correct Black gays face the same racisim against them from whites as the heterosexuals. An ignorant racist is the same no matter who they sleep with. I am very offended when b**t holes try to compare what we have suffered for over 400 hundred years with so call gays.
Still suffering and yet no one in the Black community is doing nothing about it. Civil Rights was everyone not just blacks. Besides, the black community needs to focus on getting itself together. We have some the lowest test scores in the country. Many blacks in school dont read at grade level and can’t perform basic math functions. Yet, millions of them have an opinion of gays. Come on! My city has the poorest education in the country. I’m sure many blacks didnt even read the history of the black plight in America. A plight that still exist today. And what are blacks doing about it. Nothing! They take the taking points of someone else and speak it like its truth. Education is our best weapon and many blacks don’t use it.
Hate is HATE! It’s a simple as the aged old saying “If you lie, you’ll steal, if you steal you will cheat”. Does it matter if racists pigs hate blacks more than gays? HATE and RACISM are nasty, ignorant and UGLY no matter how strong or directed towards black, gay, or jew!