ACLU to Help White Terrorist Group KKK Adopt a Highway
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) plans to help the Ku Klux Klan in its effort to adopt a Georgia highway.
ACLU of Georgia Executive Director Debbie Seagraves told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution that the civil rights group will help the Klan in its legal battle with Georgia.
The KKK applied to join the “Adopt-A-Highway” program along part of Route 515 in the north Georgia mountains. If the KKK had been granted the right to adopt a highway, it would’ve been given a highway sign in its honor.
Georgia officials denied the KKK’s request, setting up the legal showdown.
Seagraves says the ACLU is defending the KKK’s first amendment rights.
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The ACLU is doing their job to insure that our rights as defined by the Bill of Rights are honored. Even these despicable pillow case hat wearing ignoramuses have rights.
Nobody seems to get it. The ACLU hates America to the core. The ACLU’s origins are found in the communist movement, and they champion causes that tend undermine America’s strengths, while attacking all that is good with America. Do note that I’m speaking of the overall good of America, not something that tends to favor some special group within the nation.
So, why would the ACLU want to support the KKK? Simple: While the KKK (a special group) likes the support it got, America as a whole is now worse off. Nobody in their right mind would take up the cause of the KKK, but the ACLU sees that promoting the Klan in this situation will hurt that community and the nation as a whole, so they are all for it.
You must understand that anytime the ACLU shows up to “help,” that their ultimate goal is to hurt our country. The ACLU is never on your side. If you think the ACLU is on your side, you need to step back and look at the big picture . . . unless you hate America, the ACLU is never on your side.
Milton
You have the right to be wrong. There are limits to free speech and these pillow case wearing terrorist are not not human.
I agree look at what they stand for, nothing but negativity!!!
It’s their right, just as the NAACP or Pro-Latino groups can adopt a highway, so can the KKK. First Amendment Rights, baby.
Absolutely Outrageous !!! With their history of murder and terrorizing innocent black people, giving them the right to adopt a highway is like letting a child molester manage a daycare.
I agree. Plus why sweep it under the rug like they dont exist?
Yes and dogs have rights too!!!
Let Al Queida adapt the Holland Tunnel in New York City, and we’ll see how that will fly.
OLD NEWS..BACK IN THE SIXTIES THEY REPRESENTED THE AMERICAN n**i PARTY AND GEORGE WALLACE…..
That’s true. As much as we despise the KKK, unfortunately they do have the same right just like any other group. You know they’re just doing it to be able to put a sign up with their name on it. I don’t know how busy this stretch of road it, but I’m betting the they will have a hard time keeping the sign up.
America has no right to allow a known terrorist group to adopt any highway, nor have any entitlement to any civil rights. The KKK is a known terrorist group, and they are not entitled to certain rights, just as felons are not allowed.
I wonder if a felon out on parole would legally be allowed to spend time with KKK members. The law is that parolees cannot associate with criminals, so would that apply to associating with them? I would like to know how that would be addressed.
Where do they find you Negroes? I don’t know where you are from but I know where I would like to put you – an island where you can freelanga. In other words live like children in a land with a perpetual belief in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy.
Carlton, please do not use the term “negroes”, we are African-Americans. Thanks!
carlton, I know where I would love to put stupid trailer trash like you!!!!!! In h**l where you belong because you are evil.
Carlton F you a-hole!
Carlton get a grip on life you sem to be poor white trash, you are proably a member of the KKK….WT
Correct. I cant have my free speech and keep you from having yours just because I dont like you.
I swear some of you defending the ACLU’s decision to help a terrorist group is repulsive to me. The difference between the NAACP or any other civil rights group and the KKK is the violence, terrorism, and hate the KKK represents. Please inform me of any civil rights group long history of mass lynchings, bombings, beatings, segregationist laws, and so forth against a group of people. Please inform me of the segregationist mindset of the NAACP stating “whites are not allow” or they are strictly “pro-black” only. Since when is it wrong for a civil rights group to fight for the equality of other Americans whose rights are suppose to be guaranteed to us under the laws of this land vs. a group who utilize terrorism and hate to maintain their false sense of race superiority. I swear America is fill with uneducated, ignorant, low life scumbags. For crying out loud GET AN EDUCATION before you post on a board defending the KKK.
Uneducated? My education taught me about the Constitution and freedom of speech. If we deny them their rights, perhaps the next to be denied rights will be NAACP and any other group that you support… You have to think about things like this when you want to restrict rights in America.
They do NOT deserve any rights as far as I’m concerned!! Freedom of speech etc. had it’s limits and these white trolls deserve nothing but shame!! Stop cosigning for them!
It seems your ‘colonial’ education taught you about the Constitution and freedom of speech. Did you know the Constitution said Black people are 3/5 of a person? If you are Black, how do you feel about being declared 3/5 of a person by the Constitution you are supporting?
I don’t think anyone is defending the KKK. I’m certainly not! Just stating how the law is. h**l, I’d gladly be the first one to mow that sign down.
Yes everyone has so called rights, maybe GOD will step in and “BURN IT ALL DOWN” just like the gospel song by Lexi
Dr. Carter Godwin Woodson wrote a book, “The Mis-education of the Negro.” That was some ten years after he had broken ranks from a discredited NAACP. Read the book, not the newspaper synopsis.
Would be truly poetic if NAACP filed a brief in support of KKK on this – then offered to join them in cleaning the highway. Christ commanded us to love our enemies as ourselves. Funny how when you do this enemies can become friends. Wonder if Christ really knew something?
Well I hope the Black Panthers adopt a highway too. Or maybe a Moorish Science group. Oh how about al qaeda for that matter, they’re just as violent & insane as the kkk.
Charles, I’m glad you reminded us of the miraculous power that we so seldom have the courage to trust. I have no use for the Klan, but today’s killers are wearing suits and passing as business and political leaders who fight the ACLU as well as the NAACP more than they fight the Klan.
ACLU to Help White Terrorist Group KKK Adopt a Highway,
If I ever come through Ga, sure not to travel that Highwayprobably won’t make it home.
LMAO,
It really baffles the mind how some black people can bring themselves to talk about the CONSTITUTION, like it is some BIBLE. Like it really was enacted for Black people. If you remember, when the constitution was formulated, black people were considered second class. But let’s humor you all who want to SEEM like you are so righteous and want monsters having rights. Let me ask you a question. When a person commits a crime and goes to jail on a felony, does he have a constitutional right to “VOTE”. Hmmm, he is a human being right. He lives in the USA right. So why has he no constitutional right. He may not even have killed or harmed any personal physically. But a hate group, who has a long stream of murders, rapes, torturing, terroristic activity against Black people are allowed to have their constitutional rights.
WHERE THEY DO THAT AT..
Oh yeah…AMERIKKA.
And I thank You!
Thank you Peppa these silly a*s Negroes on here need to be ashamed that they would even entertain the notion that these terrorist get a highway!
When you understand the mission and history of the ACLU you’ll see how the organization applies the same standard to all the cases they take. Most reasonable people abhor what the klan stands for. Their ideals are reprehensible. The fact that we do not like or agree with them does not take away their right for representation in a court of law. The court will decide if they have a right to hateful speech. The SCOTUS just upheld first amendment rights to Westboro church…they gave free speech rights to corporatiomsbin the Citizens United. I’m pretty sure the klan will get their sign.
They also helped KKK in Deolaware
http://www.aclu-de.org/news/aclu-de-intervenes-in-deldot-disciplinary-action/2012/03/29/
just like the confederate flag had to come down because it was offensive to a race of people.THE KKK SIGHNS WOULD HAVE TO COME DOWN ALSO,OR EVEN BEFORE IT IS PUT UP.
IF SPEECH CAUSES OR INCITES A RIOT,AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVOKE SUCH CONDUCT,IT IS NOT PROTECTED SPEECH.
THE ACLU IS PUSHING IT,ESPECIALLY WITH A BLACK PRESIDENT
IN OFFICE.THE QUESTION IS,IS IT PROTECTED SPEECH,WELL
THIS ONE IS GURANTEED TO REACH THE JUSTICES IN WASHINGTON IN ORDER TO INTERPRET THE FIRST AMENDMENT CLAUSES.
I agree Super Rights. And for all you others who are continually telling us that everyone has rights under the constitution. Let’s see how you all feel, if the KKK burns down a church with one of your relatives inside. EFF the constitution. Just because soemthing was written, does notmean that it is RIGHT. Slavery was written and it was abolished. Howwas it abolished, people rallied against it. They didn’t sy, it may not be right, but it is the law. Otherwise we would still be slaves. Take your righteous stupidity to http://www.theblaze.com, with all the crazed right winged conservatives.
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If the Wall Street Journal says something, it must be true, eh?
WARNING unsuitable material for anyone over 8 years old
MOHAMMED ATTA’S GIRLFRIEND
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June 27, 2012, 11:43 AM
The FBI’s Secret Surveillance Letters to Tech Companies
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/06/27/the-fbi%E2%80%99s-secret-surveillance-letters-to-tech-companies/
By Jennifer Valentino-DeVries
Just what kind of information can the government get with a so-called “national security letter” — the tool that allows investigators to seek financial, phone and Internet data without a judge’s approval?
It’s a secret.
Information requested on phone records
The letters let the Federal Bureau of Investigation get information without going before a judge or grand jury if it’s relevant to a national security investigation. The letters have been around since the 1980s, but their use grew after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and passage of the USA Patriot Act. Tens of thousands of the requests are sent each year, but they are generally subject to strict secrecy orders.
In response to a Freedom of Information Act request by the American Civil Liberties Union, the Justice Department has revealed for the first time templates for each of the types of national security letters it sends – nine in all. Among other things, the letters show that the FBI is now informing people who receive the letters how they can challenge the documents in court.
But some key elements of the letters remain blocked from view – including lists of material the FBI says companies can send in response to the letter.
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News, analysis and primary source documents on terrorism, extremism and national security.
Thursday, May 31, 2012
Exclusive: CIA Documents on 9/11
The CIA has released nearly 800 pages of newly declassified documents on Al Qaeda and the September 11 attacks.
The documents were released in response to an INTELWIRE Freedom of Information Act request for material referenced by the 9/11 Commission. Numerous documents were withheld, and those that were released have been heavily redacted. Despite this, it is highly unusual to receive any material from the CIA in response to a FOIA request, and they provide a fascinating look at the state of the agency’s understanding of Al Qaeda over the years.
While much of the material has been previously described, by the 9/11 Commission and other sources, seeing the actual documents still has an impact. For instance, the following extracts:
The documents are presented here in two large PDFs. Each individual document is bookmarked within the PDF. Almost everything in the release was previously classified secret or top secret. The CIA also released several items already available on its Web site or in public testimony, which I omitted.
The documents are presented here in no particular order but I grouped material near the top related to warnings about the activities of Khalid Al Mihdhar, one of the hijackers, and material related to 1998 efforts to capture or kill Osama bin Laden together in roughly chronological order.
You are welcome to report from these documents, but you must credit Intelwire.com. If you wish to break out a specific document for a major media outlet, contact me. Smaller outlets, please feel free to grab excerpts using screencaps, but kindly remember to add the credit.
CIA 9/11 Binder 1:
DCI Report: The Rise of UBL and Al Qa’ida
DCI Task Force Report: Improving Intelligence Warning, 29 May 1992
2003-03-18 Bin Attash in Los Angeles in 2000
2001-05-15 Email, Suspicious travel, Khaled and Nawaf
2001-05-24 Email, Khalid Al-Mihdar in Malaysia
2001-08-21 Email, re: Khalid Al Mihdhar
2001-Undated, Email, Khallad
2001-08-21, Email, Re: Khalid Al Mihdhar
1998-05-05 Email, To Michael Scheuer, OBL Rendition
1998-09-02 Talking points RE OBL Rendition
1998-11-18 Memo re: OBL Rendition
1998-11-24 Options for OBL (Rendition)
1998-12-20 Email to Michael Scheuer, re: urgent re: UBL (missile )
1999-02-10 Talking Points: CIA Operations Against Usama bin Ladin
1999-05-17 Email from Scheuer, your note, UBL ops
2001-05-03 Senior Executive Intelligence Brief, Bin Ladin Public Profile May Presage Attach
2001-06-25, Senior Executive Intelligence Brief, Bin Ladin and Associates Making Near-Term Threats
2001-06-30 Senior Executive Intelligence Brief, Bin Ladin Planning High Profile Attacks
2001-06-23 Senior Executive Intelligence Brief, Bin Ladin Attacks May Be Imminent
2001-06-30 Senior Executive Intelligence Brief, Bin Ladin Threats Are Real
2001-07-02 Senior Executive Intelligence Brief, Planning for Bin Ladin Attacks Continues Despite Delay
2001-07-25 Senior Executive Intelligence Brief, One Bin Ladin Operation Delayed, Others Ongoing
2001-08-07 Senior Executive Intelligence Brief, Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US
1998-12-04 Memorandum, Usama Bin Laden, From Director CIA
Presidential Daily Brief, Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US
1997-01-06 Usama bin Ladin Trying to Develop WMD Capability
1997-01-06 Usama bin Ladin Trying to Develop WMD Capability
1992-07-17 Improving Intelligence Warning
2001-08-23 DCI Update, Terrorist Threat Review, Islamic Extremist Learns To Fly
12 JUN 20 01 Biographical Information on Usama bin Ladin Associates
2001-06-24 MBC TV Carries Video Report on Bin Ladin, Followers in Training
2002-12-06 Fraudulently Acquired Saudi Passports Facilitates Al Qa’ida Travel
Undated, Bin Ladin Threatening to Attack US Aircraft
2003-06-20 Afghanistan Camps Central to 11 September Plot: Can Al Qa’ida Train on the Run?
DCI Counterterrorist Center: Attack on the US Cole, Preliminary Findings, 10 November 2000
2000-10-18 The Threat to US Personnel in Yemen
1999-04-09 Islamic Terrorists: Using Nongovernmental Organizations Extensively
1999-11-12 DCI UBL Update
2001-08-12 CIA document, Atta did not travel to Prague
Undated, Planning by Usama Bin Laden to Hijack U.S. Airplane, Successful Circumvention of Security Measures in U.S. Airport
2001-04-12 Pursuing the Bin Ladin Financial Target
2002-02-27 Identifying Al Qa’ida’s Donors and Fundraisers, A Status Report
Undated, Bombings in Nairobi and Dar Es Salaam — An Update
1997-08-25 DCI Talking. Points Regarding Operations Against Usama Bin Ladin
1997-01-08 Memo on OBL Fatwas
1997-06-17 UBL financial support to Gamaat Islamiyya and others
1998-12-24 Timeframe for hijacking operation
1999-01-08 Hijacking Operation
Undated, Sudanese [redacted] ties to Gamaat Islamiyya
Undated, UBL funding of Gamaat Islamiyya
1998-12-04 Bin Ladin Preparing To Hijack US Aircraft and Other Attacks
1998-09-22 Incorporation of Ayman Al Zawahiri’s Al Jihad into UBL’s Al Qa’ida
Undated, Terrorism: Extremists planning attacks against US interests in Pakistan
2001-03-27 Afghanistan: An Incubator for International Terrorism
2002-11-14 Saudi-Based Financial Support for Terrorist Organizations
CIA 9/11 Binder 2:
2001-07-03 DCI Update Terrorist Threat Review
2001-02-06 Senior Executive Intelligence Brief, Sunni Terrorist Threat Growing
2004-03-11 Name Variants and Aliases of 11 September Hijackers and Associates
2000-06-30 Intelligence Community Threat Advisory: Bin Ladin Orchestrating Possible Anti-US Attacks
2001-03-23 Senior Executive Intelligence Brief, Afghanistan: Taliban Holding Firm on Bin Ladin For Now
2001-05-23 Senior Executive Intelligence Brief, Terroristr Groups Said Cooperating on US Hostage Plan
2001-05-24 Call-In Threat Of High- Explosive Attack
1996-12-17 Africa Division Recommendations Regarding Sudan
1999-09-06 UAE Imposition of Sanctions Could Disrupt Bin Ladin’s Finances
1999-03-16 Iraqi Delegation Meets with Bin Ladin
1997-07-14 Activities of Bin Ladin’s in Pakistan, Afghanistan and India
2003-07-02 Bin Ladin Finances
1997-02-13 Al Qaeda Links to Hosni Mubarak Assassination Attempt
1997-08-11 Al Qaeda Plan to Establish Anti-Saddam Hussein Unit
1997-01-31 COOPERATION AMONG USAMA BIN LADIN’ S ISLAMIC ARMY, IRAN, AND THE NIF (Sudan)
1997-01-31 TERRORISM: ESTABLISHMENT OF A TRIPARTITE AGREEMENT AMONG USAMA BIN LADIN, IRAN, AND THE NIF
1997-03-18 UBL’s Attempts to Obtain Uranium
1997-04-30 USAMA BIN LADIN’S ACTIVITIES IN SOMALIA AND SUDANESE NI F SUPPORT
1997-03-05 USAMA BIN LADIN’ S LINKS TO A SOUTHERN YEMENI GROUP
1997-01-08 Regarding 1992 UBL Fatwa
1996-12-19 RESPONSIBILITIES AND BACKGROUND OF ISLAMIC ARMY SHURA COUNCIL MEMBERS
2003-03-10 Al Qa’ida in Sudan, 1992-96: Old School Ties Lead Down Dangerous Paths
1996-11-26 HISTORICAL BACKGROUND OF THE ISLAMIC ARMY, AND BIN LADIN’S MOVE FROM AFGHANISTAN TO SUDAN
1997-04-18 USAMA BIN LA DIN’S HISTORICAL LINKS TO ‘ABDALLAH AZZAM
2000-11-02 Bin Ladin’s Terrorist Operations: Meticulous and Adaptable
1999-07-29 Ariana Afghan Airlines: Assets and Activities
2001-07-06 Expanding Links Between Alien Smugglers and Extremists: Threats to the United States
1999-12-11 Senior Executive Intelligence Brief, Bin Ladin to Exploit Looser Security During Holidays
Afghanistan: Strains Surface Between Taliban and Bin Ladin
Terrorist Threat to US Interests in Caucasus
2001-08-24 TERRORISM: SANITIZED VERSION OF THREAT REPORT
2000-07-14 DCI UPDATE: Islamic Extremist Terrorist Threat
2000-07-07 DCI UPDATE: Islamic Extremist Terrorist Threat
2000-05-22 DCI UPDATE: Islamic Extremist Update
2000-04 -05 DCI UPDATE: Islamic Extremist Update
2000-03-06 EXDIR Update: Islamic Extremist Terrorist Threat
2000-04-03 Islamic Extremist Update
2000-02-18 DCI Update: Islamic Extremist Terrorist Threat
2000-01-07 Update: Islamic Extremist Terrorist Threat
1999-12-16 DCI Briefing Millennium Threat
DCI Document Request No. 16, Item No. 1: Production of the [redacted] Usama Bin Ladin Situation Reports
1999-10-28 DDCI UBL Update
1999-08-03 UBL Update
2002-08-07 Terrorism: Amount of Money It Takes To Keep al-Qa’ida Functioning
1997-01-27 UBL Fatwas
1996-12-18 Structure of UBL’s Islamic Army
1996-12-19 TERRORISM: ACTIVITIES AND FUNCTIONS OF THE ISLAMIC ARMY’S MILITARY COMMITTEE, AND POLITICAL AND SHARIA COMMITTEE; PROCESS OF APPROVING TERRORIST OPERATIONS
1999-01-27 How Bin Ladin Commands a Global Terrorist Network
2003-12-10 Letter to Douglas Feith from Stanley Moskowitz, Director of Congressional Affairs, re: Corrections to Iraq-AQ claims
1999-04-05 Targeting Study of US Embassy, Nairobi, Kenya
1995-12 Sketch of a South Asia-Based Terrorist Training and Logistic Network
RESPONSE TO DCI DOCUMENT REQUEST NUMBER 52, ITEM 2 (9/11 Commission)
2001: Central Intelligence: Origin and Evolution
1994-10 OIG Inspection Report: The Agency’s Counterterrorism Effort
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Mexican Drug Lord linked to 5.5 ton-cocaine bust
Posted on June 27, 2012 by Daniel Hopsicker
Six months ago, the LAPD was telling reporters the decapitated head found underneath the Hollywood Sign was the result of a “gay lovers triangle.”
Six months later, they were still pursuing the gay “thing,” only instead of a gay boyfriend in Hollywood, their chief suspect was the now-notorious Canadian Cannibal. Their efforts at disinformation were successful, and widely disseminated.
But it also created a teachable moment about the Mexican drug war. The reason for all the disinformation about Hervey Medellin’s head, found beneath the Hollywood Sign in January 2012, has to do with the identity of Medellin’s longtime boss:
Jose Serrano Segovia is one of Mexico’s wealthiest oligarchs. He owns Mexico’s biggest shipping line, whose fleets of cargo ships, trucks and planes bring goods from Central and South America into the U.S. He even owns a railroad, that goes all the way to Kansas City.
And he is known as one Mexico’s biggest Drug Lords.
So I imagine if an “an association of child molestors” formed a group and decide to adopt a highway it would be their right as well. Some things are just common sense. I
concur with Peppa.
I agree with court denying the naming of a highway after one of the most notorious, racist, hate groups in the world. Well, I guess the “Black Panthers,” will be next, ACLU, shane on you.
I do have a problem with the ACLU and the KKK…
1) There is no such thing in America as an all Bllack organization…
2) The Black Panthers were considered terrorist…and the KKK are not…hummmmmmmmm!
3) They are allowed to bare arms as criminals, racists, and terrorist, but Blacks are not because most of us have felonies…
4) I do not support anything that is white oriented, that includes the so-called jesus (zues)…so I guess that means I am a racist and a terroeist?
5) The KKK receives government grants (funding) like any other white owned business or non-profit organization…
6) Black folks agree that they should be allowed to show case their first admendments rights in the name of “Hate and terrorism”…
By the way, I am not a RACIST…I truly believe in white burials…aka funerals…
These people just do not get it…they will continue to be plagued with all kinds of diseases and affliction…
They have health care but you do not…the good news is that they need it…just watch all of the TV commercials thqat advertise lawsuits for people who have taken this medicine and have had this medical surgery….
I hate this country and every white person and people of color who love them and do what they do…white people are criminals, terrorists, perverts, rapist, etc…
ahh, the truth comes out…….if you were white, you would be the leader of that KKK hate group. So go find yourself some wacked out, extremely racist org. to comfort your ignorant ramblings. The only thing true in your rant is part of the last item which shows your what a deprived individual you are…..
I hate this country and every white person and people of color who love them and do what they do
with folks like you…who needs the KKK, you have enough hate for everyone. so sad
Now the NAACP, or SCLC should sponsor the mile before and the mile after I chip in for that.
It is NOT just that the KKK espouses garbage and beliefts that are reprihensible, it is that they MURDERED people, HUNG THEM FROM TREES, DECAPITATED PEOPLE, SLICED OPEN PREGNANT BLACK WOMEN AND KILLED THEIR UNBORN CHILDREN; CASTRATED BLACK MEN. Are we saying they have the same rights as I or you do who are NOT murders. It is NOT just what they stand for IT IS WHAT THEY HAVE DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
I worked for the ACLU as an office manager in Houston. I fully understand their position but on THIS, they are WRONG!!! For the MOST part, the ACLU is comprised on ultra white liberals who have their point of view which I, as a Black woman, can and DOES disagree with. One of the people who replied was absolutely right when he stated that the rights stated in this country’s constitution were NEVER intended for people of color. Since it’s inception, these same people have consistely tried and in MANY, MANY instances, succeeded in denying those rights. When all of this country’s rights are afforded people of color, THEN, and ONLY THEN, will I even “consider” the rights of the KKK !!!
Thanks for the inside info on the ACLU. The atrocities you described were also crimes committed by many people who actually have streets, towns, cities etc. named after them. This is typical of a colonial country like the US. I think many people who post here have no idea what a ‘colonial country’ is and how it behaves…and what it SUPPORTS and CELEBRATES. For example, you wrote “HUNG THEM FROM TREES, DECAPITATED PEOPLE, SLICED OPEN PREGNANT BLACK WOMEN AND KILLED THEIR UNBORN CHILDREN; CASTRATED BLACK MEN”. They have streets named after people like Columbus (and cities, institutions, etc.) named after that devil that committed these crimes and they celebrate him. This is what they do. This is a sign of a colonial country, just like this very issue. This is where we are at. Also, the Constitution (which was created by a colonial country) defined a Black person as 3/5 of a person. Many people don’t understand ‘colonialism’. THanks for your info.
They shouldn’t have rights for they are a terrorist organization. The ACLU in their quest to “protect the rights of others” aid and abet these nihilistic groups that rally against the highest ideals of this co-called democracy. I’m not impressed at all!!!
@Jeff,
I think the post written by PB Short is excessive as well. But I will also note that you DENOUNCED his post, but you’ve yet to denounce the ACLU.
There is nothing that would ever make me look at a known KKK member as anything but evil. Evil people deserve nothing righteous, unless they allow their hate and evil ways go.
A person who robbed a bank cannot vote, yet a KKK member who is a part of a known racist and terrorist group is allowed not only to vote, but to throw their name in the faces of a race that they tortured for years. People in that state will have to drive on that hwy that is adopted by those monsters.
And as far as the Black Panther Party, why are they considered a terroristic group. Who have they terrorized. From what I know, they defend their race. They didn’t go out burning churches of white people. They didn’t go around hanging white people. They lynched no white people. I really scratch my head every time a white person tries to compare the KKK to the BPP
WOW NELLIE,
I have several “issues” with the ACLU, they are a far left political
oriented group, yet tax exempt. This ploy by the ALCU is just there way of pretending to represent “all” Look at their history and you will see a absolute neglect of any issues facing white Americans and now they represent the KKK !!!!! They will revert
back to representing any anti-American extremest group
and with this bogus claim they are all inclusive. I will cringe at the sight of a terror org. paying a state to advertize it’s name
with signs on the side of the road. Political correctness
has this country insane.
P.S. I never mentioned the Black Panthers, and I agree they are much less a threat to civil socity than the KKK, but yes they
did a few bombings and killings (many years ago, in fact there is a connection to Malcom X’s murder) just not comparable to the scale or scope the KKK did. The only real similarity is they are both hate groups and HATE IS THE REAL ENEMY
The KKK has broken every constitution rights of every black American that every existed and they have not changed. They are still killing in the back wood of this country. They do have constitution rights, but please do not be blind and think they will respect your constitution rights if you are a black American. Always watch your back because if you do not history will repeat itself once they regain control again. I promise they will raise their ugly head.
if we all would like to be politically correct then we probably should not even have the american flag. seeing that the land was ripped from the hands that we name “NATIVE AMERICANS”. I believe it is the humane thing to do by showing support to freedom of speech. if it isnt in you to adopt a highway yourself to clean up the area and leave a legacy, then why respond when someone else does. if hatred stems from past experiences then blacks should be mad at africans that sold their own people for rum, blacks should be mad at whites for the inhumane treatment upon their purchase of slaves. indians should hate whites for giving them sections of their own land called reservations, and so on and so forth. you shut down the speech of one, you will shut down the speech of all
Actually if you go back far enough even native ancestors came from somewhere else. And a lot of the tribes were warring with each other and taking each others land as part of their survival. Some African tribes actually held slaves themselve…I said some so nobody freak out on me. If you study far enough into different cultures, this has been going on as long as man has been on this earth. Humans have always been horrible to each other. My point is: everyone came from somewhere and we should be able to be proud of our heritage no matter who you are…black, white, whoever. You should also be able to be proud to just be American. And NO ONE should be hating anyone today. Nothing is going to change a bit if we do.
(…and it definitely doesn’t do a race any good to be hating each other.)
Yes, and white people even enslaved themselves. They were called ‘serfs’. Even the term ‘slav’ which is the root for ‘slave’ comes from Slavic people who were enslaved by the Roman Empire, and they were pretty brutal. They even fed their white slaves to the lions in the colusseium for entertainment. African people also had a system of slavery, but a slave in Africa could raise him or herself up to be a ruler (remember Joseph in Egypt) and they were not brutally dehumanized, robbed of their knowledge of their history, culture or people. The term ‘slave’ (as we know it) and the associated brutalities are NOT universal. And Black people are the original people on all lands all over the world. Yes, everybody came from somewhere, but Black people were everywhere first because Black people are the original human beings.
The ACLC is a group of these liberal whites, and mostly controlled by Jews, and do not really represent blacks, for the most part. So I don’t associate myself, being black, with them anyway, for they, just like the NAACP, now that it is headed by a Mulatto president, Ben Jealous (white father and black mother), are now trying to everything for everybody. And also sort of adoplting Rodney King’s slogan, “can’t we all just get along.” Which is absolute non-sense, because racists are like snakes, and snakes will always bite, no matter how friendly you try to be with them. Many of us even believe that the KKK is involved, in some ways, with guns and drugs getting into the black communities all over America. And there is a group that is investigating this. For you can rest assured that there are some whites involved in these things overflowing in the black neighborhoods. So, anyway, to h**l with the ACLU, and blacks need to say this to them, out loud. — Rev. George Brooks
KKK rights join right along with GAY rights.
I am on a crusade to encourage African-Americans to embrace that title and stop using the term “black” for description. We are more than a color.
In America “white” is good and light and “black” is evil and bad, we need to stop embracing this label for our children. Asians protested the use of “yellow” and Native Americans shun “red man”. Why have we continued to embrace “black” since the 60s?
I visited CA a few years back and I used the term Oriental and was corrected, Japanese, Koreans and Chinese now prefer Asian only. Mexicans, Cubans etc. prefer Latino. Why are we the last ones holding onto labels given to us?
The term “African-American” is stupid, and pathetically dishonest. Few people who utilize the label are truly African-American, as in someone born in Africa and transplanted to America. When was the last time you heard a white person saying, “I’m Irish-American” or “I’m British-American” or “I’m German-American” even though most of them fit into one of those categories. Fact is, most “black” people have some Irish, British, or German in them, too (that light-skin didn’t come from Africa, you know). Our president is literally 50% pasty white (Caucasian) person, reportedly 3/8 arab (which is considered a sub-group of Caucasian), and 1/8 “black” African (negroid), but for some unkonwn reason, black folks insist on calling him “African American.” Mr. Obama could just as honestly portrayed as Irish-American (the predominant ancestry of his mother), but seemingly nobody (outside of a little town in Ireland) has any interest in doing so.
Regardless, the labels are messed up. I suppose the “native Americans” have a legitimate axe to grind, but the rest of us? Why can’t we just be Plano Americans? There are planes and boats that will take any of us back to Africa most every day, yet I really don’t think any of us want to move there. Heck, most of us don’t even want to visit the place, at least not if we had to pay for our own ticket there and back.
The fact is that most “black” people who wish to use the label of “African-American” have to go back at least 8 generations to find an ancestor that actually lived in Africa (most would have to go back 10 or 12 generations). Most “white” Americans can trace back one relative to a European nation in fewer than 8 generations. My point is that few, if any, “black” people in the USA have any real ties to Africa; if a “black” American man was dropped in the middle of Nairobi, he would be totally lost — he doesn’t know anything about the culture, the language, the foods, or even the traditions.
America is a colonial country who has colonized “Black” people, so they are going to present a negative image of anything or anyone as “black” or “dark” to be negative. Don’t let yourself be defined by a colonial country and its institutions. This is part of the system of racism/white supremacy. For example: white (and yes, I said ‘white’, a color…or lack thereof) people committed the huge crimes to create this country for their exclusive benefit by killing the native people and stealing their land, kidnapping a stolen population of Africans to build the country with free labor, the crimes associated with Jim Crow all the way up to the Civil Rights area…and now we are beginning to enter the era of the New Jim Crow (don’t forget Trayvon Martin and the Stand Your Ground Laws so easily), but they want to portray Black people as ‘criminals’. That is projection. Don’t allow the definitions of this ‘white’ colonial country define you.
I stopped supporting the ACLU many years ago. I don’t see them fighting that hard for people of Afican descent.
And we don’t use the word mulatto any longer, either. It is considered a prejorative term…ask Anthropologists and/or linguists. They will tell you that it was the term referred to when you breed a donkey and horse…you get mule, a pack animal – beast of burden not capable of procreating. So, when you say that Rev. you are being not only racist yourself, but ignorant to the insult you are causing those of us who are of mixed race!!
We all need to consider what we’re saying before we speak, and who we’re unjustly labeling, while asking to be treated fairly!!!
Really? You can’t be serious. All the problems in the world, and you are worried about the use of the word “mulatto”? A word often shares its root origin with many other words. Same goes with application and use of the word. This mulatto thing is a stretch if there ever was one. One argument is that the English term was derived from a Portuguese term for a mule, but not derived because of the “beast of burden” aspect of a mule, but simply because the mule was a mixture of two identifiably different things — a horse and a donkey. In application to a “cross” between a caucasian and a negro, we get the term mulatto; not because the cross is a “beast” but simply that the cross is a cross. The term has never been used as a pejorative. And it is a bit of a stretch to even suggest such. Other authorities on etymology suggest that the English word was derived from the Arabic term muwallad, meaning mixed ancestry. Me thinks you are a bit over concerned about the origin of a word that is not applied with the least bit of an intended insult, rather, you are simply over sensitive. Get over yourself.
I understand the goal of the ACLU but it Is quite evident that many of these posters do not. Since the KKK is such a vile and hated organization, I don’t believe an intelligent discussion on this subject is possible.
please go away!
As a white woman, I have had many problems with the ACLU, such as when they have helped pornographers claiming “free speech” to rape women. So I have to remember that, when I speak of the ACLU, an organization that I often support on various issues, and have appreciated their support on other feminist issues, such as reproductive rights.
My confusion here, and if there are some legal scholars here who can clarify, I’d appreciate it, is what the difference or similarities are, legally, between a hate *group* that has committed mass crime and terrorism both historically and in the present, vs. the rights of the individual criminal, as people are raising here, such as someone who committed a felony and can’t vote?
If an *organization* has a proven criminal record, what are their legal rights?
My massive ignorance here: has the KKK as an organization been found (by the courts) to commit crimes, or have just individuals in the KKK been convicted?
I think the organization of child molesters is a good (sickening) analogy: can the organization be shut down for promoting crime or having criminals in its group, and lose any legal rights, or can only individuals within it be prosecuted and lose rights?
What if it is just certain individuals within the organization that have a criminal record, who are being essentially aided and abetted by the organization?
Many klan members were/are people who were individual criminals who worked as policemen, lawyers, judges, etc., then donned the white hood and the robe to go around killing people. The klan is a hate group that consists of individual criminals committing crimes, people who are complicit with the crimes and were supportive of the crimes as well. How about financing the crimes, planning the crimes and covering them up. All criminals and all play their part.
Alice, you posed a very good question. I cannot answer it but maybe someone else can. So far this thread has been filled by many enraged, uninformed, and myopic responses, garnished with small bits of input by comic and intellectual wannabes.
Alice,
Think of it this way. When the FBI goes after a drug dealer on the streets, they are really looking for the Big Supplier. The supplier isn’t the one actually on the streets doing the trafficking, but they are the ones who supplied the means and hired the drug trafficker. It should be the same with the KKK. The dumb cowards are the ones carrying out the crime, while the Grand idiot incites the crazies and gives the orders to kill innocent African Americans.
And to me112233, yes, I used African Americans. I do not care if I was born there or not. And I don’t care how many ancestors I would have to go back to find a relative of mine who was born there, Trust and believe it is where my race of people originated, therefore I am African American. Who ever heard of your analogy, that you had to be born in Africa to be considered African American. And lots of people came from the ghetto slums of inner city, they don’t want to go back or visit, but that does not mean they don’t originate from those areas. I am a proud African American woman, who has been to Kenya and when I got there, something felt so complete in me. That was four years ago. My confidence level burst through the roof and am a ball of success now.
Alice’s comment does give you something to think about. But if a group leader is preaching hate he is no less guilty that the ones actually commuting the crimes. So legally I can see Alice’s point but I have to agree with you. Granted the klan isn’t what it used to be, but its still a hate group and there are enough members still commiting crimes that it is still a dangerous group. And they don’t just go after blacks either; Latino, natives, Jews, Asians, Arabic, the handicapped, and even other whites.
Just because some evil whites have influenced some blacks to believe that black relates to evil is no reason for all or even ONE black person to fall for that garbage, or anything else that whites say. BLACK people are the original peope and COLOR on this earth, and NO BLACK should be so weak as to fall for some of these lies by whites who are jealous of black people, and have been able to brainwash many of us (I’m black and proud) into believing that black is evil and bad. How sick. And for these blacks that do not want to relate to Africa, because they have lived here in the USA all of their lives, so have many of other races, but they are proud of being descendants of countries of which they were not born, but their ancestors came from. An American-born Chinese of even 10 or 15 is very proud of calliing him or herself Chinese, althought they were not born there, and may have never even been there. Stop hating yourself and from where your ancestors came from, B-L-A-C-K African Americans. — Rev. George Brooks
The idea behind the KKK is to murder, terrorize and f-over Black people. The ACLU supplies them with free legal counsel. It is all a game to them because they are too rich and protected for the KKK to go after them. Screw the ACLU!
@ Peppa, I love your post especially the part where you went to Kenya and how good you felt. And how you were motovated and up lifted. I have always wondered how it would be if all Black-African Americans were allowed to travel back and forth to Africa like other races do. Many of us have never been to another State, most of us don’t have a Pass-Port so you know we haven’t been out of the Country. Good luck to you Peppa in all your endevors
I also believe in the basic rights under the constitution. However, I believe that those rights come with an obligations as an American citizen. As an organization that would stoop so low as to blow up a church and kill four little Black girls on a Sunday after church services, I don’t think that they deserve the right to post a sign on a public highway. I don’t think that an organization that would shoot a man in the back while getting out of his car, going into his home has the right to post a sign on a public highway. I don’t think that an organization that would go into a home in the middle of the night and drag a little 12 year old Black child from his grandparents home and take him out and lynch him should have the right to post a sign on a public highway.
I contacted the ACLU and requested help to fight a civil rights issue. The ACLU Newark told me that it did not have the resources to help me. But it has the resources to help the Klan. That highway will become a “Terror route”. It will display KKK signs and burning crosses.
Maybe the KKK has infiltrated the ACLU. This is a shame. The KKK’s mission is to deny the civil rights of Blacks and minorities, but the ACLU wants to protect its civil rights. That is like an angel helping the devil in the name of salvation. It….just….stupid.
The representation of the KKK is a white racist group that
discriminates against admission to their organization based on
race. Secondly the creed of their organization is directed to
the violence and suffering of others through illegalities which
include but not limited to murder, thievery, molestation, vandalism
and hatred. Using a public highway as a representation to a
group such as this would leave the state of Georgia liable to
accepting these types of practices. I don’t see it happening.
The KKK knows this but is basically pushing the issue to get
recognition. Poor recognition is better than no recognition in
their book.