Note to Trayvon’s Mother: It’s Time to Step to the Side

by Dr. Boyce Watkins , KultureKritic.com

I haven’t spoken with Al Sharpton in a few months.  But if we were still speaking and he were to ask me what to do with the mother of Trayvon Martin, my answer would be very simple:  Get her off the stage right now.

Trayvon’s mother, Sybrina Fulton, appeared on The Today Show this week and actually said that she thinks that George Zimmerman shot her son by accident.

“One of the things that I still believe in, a person should apologize when they are actually remorseful for what they’ve done. I believe it was an accident. I believe that it just got out of control and he couldn’t turn the clock back. I would ask him, did he know that that was a minor, that that was a teenager, and that he did not have a weapon?”

When I heard these words, I froze in my tracks.  I couldn’t believe that Trayvon’s mother would make a statement that was in such stark contradiction to the charges being brought forth by the prosecutor.  In fact, there’s a big part of me that wonders why she was on the show at all.

According to Findlaw.com, second-degree manslaughter is defined as:

1) an intentional killing that is not premeditated or planned, nor committed in a reasonable “heat of passion” or 2) a killing caused by dangerous conduct and the offender’s obvious lack of concern for human life

There is nothing about the word “accident” that implies intent, which is why it’s called an “accident.”  Although Sybrina’s attorneys have worked hard to clean up after her mistake, the truth is that she can’t argue that Zimmerman “accidentally” thought that Trayvon looked suspicious or that he “accidentally” chased him down.  The only part of this interaction where the word “accident” readily applies is in the actual shooting itself.  If I were George Zimmerman’s brother, I would send Syrbrina’s attorney a thankyou card.

God bless Sybrina for being honest (if that is what she meant to say), but there are some things better left unsaid.  For the mother of the victim to make a statement in national media that directly contradicts the efforts of the prosecution is nothing short of disastrous.

“George Zimmerman stalked my son and murdered him in cold blood,” Sybrina later said to MSNBC in another interview, retracting her earlier statement.

My question at this point is this:  Why was there another interview in the first place?  I am not a lawyer myself, but I presume that there’s a reason that attorneys tell their clients to be quiet.  All of the cleansing in the world will never take away the fact that Sybrina’s comments have had a remarkably negative impact on the ability of the special prosecutor to do her work.

Sybrina’s words have opened the door for millions of people to understand when George Zimmerman is let off the hook with either an acquittal or a plea bargain for a lesser charge.  This remark also undermines her credibility as she seeks to have Zimmerman convicted of second degree murder.  Why would I tell someone to punish you for deliberately doing something that I believe to be accidental?

Trayvon’s parents have done their work and they’ve done it well.  They’ve achieved the first steps toward justice for their son, and now it’s time for them to try to rebuild their lives in private.  Rev. Sharpton has done a wonderful job of highlighting the racial dimensions of this highly unfortunate incident.  At this point, the conversation about black men in the justice system must grow beyond Trayvon Martin, and the prosecution should be allowed to do its work.  The family, as well all associated racial advocates, need to strategize in private, listen to the evidence and just stop talking.

Dr. Boyce Watkins is a Professor at Syracuse University and founder of the Your Black World Coalition. To have Dr. Boyce commentary delivered to your email, please click here.

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207 Responses to Note to Trayvon’s Mother: It’s Time to Step to the Side

  1. Mark S. Allen April 12, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Dr. Boyce Watkins is right on this matter and the parents of Trayvon Martin have done a tremendous job on behalf of their child although the parents are not together and Trayvon like so many other children have to balance their lives as products of parents who are not married and not together under one roof. When tragedies strike, I have been a witness as to how both parents and their respective families can be brought to blows over who is at fault when tragedies hit the child when with the other parent or environment.

    God has granted them the strength to get together in a united front without themselves having become another negative side-bar focus of the tragedy. You could see them on respective TV interviews and public appearances having almost no eye or physical contact with each other as they each addressed the issues of this case.

    Their work is done now and the focus is now on the fact that whether it was an “accident” or not — that the loss of Trayvon Martin began when George Zimmerman blatantly ignored the 911 dispatcher and pursued Trayvon anyway.

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  2. Sherrie C. April 12, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    After all this rah rah, she is now saying this. quiet her mouth and…bless her heart.

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  3. wealthylady April 12, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    Guys, baaaacck up off this Lady, she has been to hell & back. It’s easy to sit back & say, so & so when it’s not you! Give this woman respect and choose YOUR words, you don’t know when or how your day of “testing” will come & how you will fair.

    And btw she has held up tremendously after what she has been through!

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    • playrighter April 14, 2012 at 12:26 am

      She has been praised by people for her composure by people from Alan Dershowitz to Bill O’Reilly.

      I believe it is time for the Martins to go home and “know peace”.

      Does anybody know who paid for them to go from Florida to Washington D.C. for the appearances there? I hope they’re not being used to advance somebody else’s agenda.

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    • jimi p April 14, 2012 at 4:26 am

      I agree with wealthylady.

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    • Thomas April 16, 2012 at 10:36 am

      @wealthylady, you’ve said it best because the less than empathetic public and media have rendered their unsolicited opinions about this grieving mother whose child will never return home and they don’t have a clue what the heart of this woman is experiencing nor do they care to know. Its the most incompassionate, insensitive set of opinions I’ve ever witnessed among people who want to further victimize a woman who should be given the latitude to even make a mistake or two or even demonstrate some anger if necessary to find relief from her pain. Cut this family a break or switch places with them and then you’ll know what it is to be under extreme mortal pressure and stress.

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      • playrighter April 16, 2012 at 2:57 pm

        Sybrina has held up remarkably well through all this, but it’s been reported that she wanted no part of it while Tracy kept pushing.

        As for all the media and ensuing coverage, you can thank her attorney Crump who brought in Ryan Julison, a public relations expert. His job is to generate significant publicity. He started with CBS and Reuters, and you know the rest.

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  4. Katie Lindsey April 12, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    Today show, focused and highlighted the mom felt it as an accident for the whole world to hear.Do they want him to walk and go back to normalcy?Mom needs to be properly advised and not let every interviewer go after them. These people are trained agitators and know how to get you to say whatever!

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    • wealthylady April 13, 2012 at 2:17 am

      I agree 100% with this maybe this should be passed onto their attorneys.

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      • Renelda Moorehead April 13, 2012 at 10:43 pm

        To “WealthyLady”– You mean the attorneys for the defense can’t figure out that the parents need to remain incommunicado for the sake of justice for their client?
        I still think money, as a pay -off, is involved. This
        grieving mother in her stupidity, is tainting public opinion.

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        • wealthylady April 13, 2012 at 11:45 pm

          That is not what I said Renalda, read my statement before you come @ me. How does this sound “the mother in her innocence” How would you feel, you just lost your son and someone calls you stupid?

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    • Ruby from NJ April 13, 2012 at 9:06 pm

      And the media are known to twist your words. Trayvon’s parents are not media savvy; they are innocents whose words will be twisted. Please, Mr. Crump, don’t make the parents available to the media any longer.

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    • Renelda Moorehead April 13, 2012 at 10:44 pm

      If the mother is paid to go on those shows, then…

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    • playrighter April 14, 2012 at 12:31 am

      I’ve seen the interview, and there was no agitation. The host was being very courteous to Sabryna, asked her what she was feeling, and just let her talk, which she did, while her attorney, Mr. Crump, sat right next to her. These people may steer answers at times, but this wasn’t one of them.

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      • wealthylady April 14, 2012 at 12:33 am

        No, but the lady is under tremendous stress!

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  5. Spencer April 13, 2012 at 3:13 am

    She is grieving her child, she wants to appear logical and show that she is a Christian. With that said, I believe she simply misspoke and of course she doesn’t think this killing was an accident. When someone loses a loved one especially a child only God alone knows what they are feeling and thinking. I agree with wealthylady, we need to give her the benefit of the doubt. Rev. Sharpton needs to coach her before she goes in front of the cameras but I disagree that she should be kept off the stage. That would be a hurtful thing to do to a person who is already hurting enough. Could you imagine if she went before the cameras with bitterness on her face and behaving in a belligerent manner? Those racist Conservatives would have a field day. She and Trayvon’s father are honoring their son in wonderful manner given the circumstances.

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  6. Trevor Fraser April 13, 2012 at 4:33 am

    I agree with Bowatkin. I thought that Trayvon’s mom and dad should not be speaking to or giving anymore interviews to the media. I thought it was only a matter of time that something like this would happen. They’ve done everything that they as a family could do and they (the family) have finally been able to have this man charged. NO MORE INTERVIEWS PLEASE. The only good that more media interviews would accomplish is to potentially provide such mis-speakings to happen and therefore play into the hands of George Zimmerman’s defense team. They should let their attorneys do all the talking from now on.

    This family has been under tremendous pressure from the time their son was murdered. they are still grieving and are still coming to grips with their son’s senseless and deliberate murder. I cannot understand why their attorneys or whomever were still allowing them to make media interviews especially after they had accomplished the main goal-to have Zimmerman charged.

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    • geno4u April 15, 2012 at 12:48 pm

      Well said my friend, Well said !

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  7. Rex April 13, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    Too bad this lady didn’t put this much effort into raising her son; if she had, maybe he wouldn’t have been suspended from school, made himself look like a thug on social media, and been in the wrong neighborhood trying to take yet another short-cut in life.

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    • Catlover April 13, 2012 at 10:15 pm

      What can you say for Zimmerman’s parents? They raised a guy who had problems with the cops before as well as domestic violence, not Trayvon.

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      • wealthylady April 14, 2012 at 12:09 am

        Not only that daddy judge covered for him, how else do you explain 3 arrest all of which were expunged. Assault on an officer? how does that go away? They raised this lunatic to think the law does not apply to him and his famliy. Zimmerman was the thug!

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    • P April 13, 2012 at 10:48 pm

      So that means he deserved to die? Really???????

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    • wealthylady April 13, 2012 at 11:37 pm

      Rex are you really that “stupid” or just that “evil” & “vile” And may every evil thing you’ve spoken be returned back to you and your family!

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    • Chris April 13, 2012 at 11:39 pm

      It’s too bad that you didn’t put that much effort into your thought process before you made your comment.
      Her son was doing fine in school… this was his first suspension and there was no history of violence or “thuggery” within him.
      Now maybe if Zimmerman’s parents acted a little more diligently in his preparation, he wouldn’t be so hostile and quick to judge.
      I’d advise you to research instead of taking media’s judgments for gospel.

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    • Ny April 14, 2012 at 3:17 am

      What gives you the right to say how a parent has raised their child or children because of the way they are looking on a social media site. What era are you living in? the majority of teens, white, black, chinese, hispanic or whatever nationality are all doing the same things…STOP judging, because you will surely be judged.. Now go take a look in the mirror at yourself. SMH…you have no humanity! What the hell does that have to do with a bully like Zimmerman shooting a young teen in cold blood murder, if you have any children, I only pray it doesn’t happen to yours.

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    • Milagros April 14, 2012 at 11:41 am

      REX this is blame the victim..he was not cutting thru his dad lived there..As for his mother i believe that did what she could do and when any child is exposed to what ameerikkka has to offer its a wonder all of them have not met death or prison. Sometimes Rex when kids leave home they do things that are not exactly right or legal..However lets just say that TRAYVON was ” quote” raised right” The wanna be cop profiled him, stalked him and assassinated him not knowing anything other than that he was an Afrikan desc,allegedly funny, was looking around and was HIS PREY? Rex, there is adead juvenile, murdered by a 26 yrs old adult? lets be fair and allow me to ask you a question..R U A RACIST? ignorant unfeeling or here trying to start a fight?
      family do not fall for the okey doke If u choose to address this do so with dignity..If i can do it u can..google me and you will see that i walk light and carry a big stick..lol

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    • geno4u April 14, 2012 at 12:59 pm

      @ Rex: What “wrong” neighborhood ? His father lives there ! Are you really that blind with Hatred ?

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      • wealthylady April 15, 2012 at 12:20 am

        Rex is one of those depraved, despictable ppl like the zimmermans, cut from the same evil cloth. Always on the prowl looking to start something. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit, if he was one of those white men like Jerry Sandusky “preying” on little boys. Chicken Hawk undercover. His remarks says a lot about what kind of person he “really” is.

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  8. Pam April 13, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    Did anyone see the interview with Nancy Grace where his mother explained what she meant when she said that? If you are going to report news, please give all the facts. She can give as many interviews she want to. She is not the one on trial. Let her talk about her son as much as she want too. This is her way of healing.

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  9. Louise April 13, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    She clearly clarified that she did not say or mean that Zimmerman’s killing her son was an accident and that the media distrorted what she said like they do everything else these days (and like YOU are doing too). She said that both of them being there at that moment in time was an accident (as in accident of fate) that resulted in Zimmerman killing her son. She clearly said that she believed Zimmerman maliciously killed her son. A more important issue is their charging Zimmerman with 2nd degree murder. I am concerned that if they cannot convict him of premeditated murder… he walks —whether he killed him on purpose or not. I think that was done on purpose. While people are focused on what a grieving mother is saying or doing — they are preparing him … to walk.

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    • mike April 14, 2012 at 4:42 am

      was hoping someone else heard what she said. The outcome is going to be what its going to be. She has a right to speak if she chooses to…..it was her son.

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      • Sherrie C April 14, 2012 at 1:10 pm

        @wealthy lady…my testing came in 1996 when my 9-year old daughter perished in an automobile accident driven by an elderly man with Alzheimer’s Disease and cancer, whose driver’s license had been provoked. Although the circumstances are quite different, we still lost our daughter at the hands of an irresponsible individual. The automobile driven by my father had been dismantled by salvage yard employees, and therefore I had no evidence and could not pursue a wrongful death lawsuit. So I have been tested and I would advise you to take your own advice and choose your words carefully in the future!

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        • wealthylady April 14, 2012 at 9:25 pm

          Sherrie, I’m sorry to hear about what happened to your daugther, it’s any mother’s nightmare to lose her child. But in all thy getting, get an understanding. Now if you would re read my statement, it was to do w/ppl jumping on Trayvon’s mother for her statement. And I said it’s easy to say such & such when it’s not you. And I stand behind my statement!

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      • SherrieC April 14, 2012 at 1:12 pm

        @wealthy lady…my testing came in 1996 when my 9-year old daughter perished in an automobile accident driven by an elderly man with Alzheimer’s Disease and cancer, whose driver’s license had been revoked. Although the circumstances are quite different, we still lost our daughter at the hands of an irresponsible individual. The automobile driven by my father had been dismantled by salvage yard employees, and therefore I had no evidence and could not pursue a wrongful death lawsuit. So I have been tested and I would advise you to take your own advice and choose your words carefully in the future!

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  10. Kay April 13, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    Yes, it is time for Travon’s mother to STOP talking and allow her attorney or powers that be to take it from here. In my opinion she/ they need to speak through their attorney.

    I am happy that you have allowed me this opportunity to express my thoughts. Thank you

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    • Milagros April 14, 2012 at 11:46 am

      NO! it is not time to stop its time to keep Tryavons memory and face upfront..See caspars want us to forget like all the others heck no that aint happening this time..Why should she hush! This is a way for her to heal..And the PTB are hoping that she will cease and desist talking what better way get what MEMORY LOSS..GET REAL DO U HAVE A MURDERED SON? THEN H.U.S.H…

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  11. Tee April 13, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    I saw the Today show interview and believe that a mistake was made in using the word accident. I felt even before this that it was time to stop doing interviews. However I in no way feel that this will play a role in how the trial will play out. In the end the jury will have to look at the evidence and come to a decision.

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  12. jim willis April 13, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    We must begin to realize that they play games on us constantly. They know that the longer this thing plays out the more the likelyhood of people making damaging or contrasting statements. Once these statements are introduced at trial, “you said this at one point, and then at another point you said that” you have reasonable doubt, and a murderer walks free. WE DON’T HAVE TO SPEAK EVERYTIME THEY PUT A MIKE IN OUR FACES!!!

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  13. John April 13, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    I too was a little concerned about what Travon’s mother said. But, in reality it will have no baring on the upcoming Zimmerman legal case regarding his killing of Travon Martin. Travon’s mother is not a material witness to the events that happened that night. Therefore, it will not be considered in a court of law. Speculation from people who were not witnesses to any events surrounding Travon killing is just that–speculation. Take if with a grain of salt.

    Having said all of above, suggesting that Travon’s mother no longer participate in TV interviews, solely because some feel she mispoke–is recklless and inconsiderate. She and Travon’s father are still in the process of grieving and doing the best they can do understand an extremely tragic situation.

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  14. VELMA HENDERSON April 13, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    I realize that the mother is truly hurting, out of her mind and everything else that goes with losing a child. I THINK THE ATTORNEY WHOM I HAVE A FEW CONCERNS ABOUT SHOULD NOT ALLOW HER OR THE FATHER TO TALK TO THE MEDIA ANYMORE. THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY CLAIMS THAT HE WON’T USE THE STATEMENT THAT SHE MADE, BUT REMEMBER HE IS TRYING TO GET HIS CLIENT FREE.

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  15. ADL April 13, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    The Mom like many of us have misspoken and time or two. This should not be made a big deal. No Matter what anyone says the facts speaks for itself. So no mattere what anyone says this was murder. I listened to all the 911 calls and this was murder. There was this woman on the line for 15 minutes given details and she was crying and very upset. She also witness that no one help Trayvon as he laid in the grass. I am in the medical field George Zimmerman claim to have a broken nose. No such evident. I also watch the police bring him him without a care in the world, what also amazed me is the fact that he was leaning against the wall with no cops close to him as if he was there for shoplifting. Look at the Video and listen for your self to the tapes. I live in Orlando so we get probably more than you guys because we are right here. Accident or not this was murder!! Nothing else. Listen and watch video at channel 13 news orlando. Much heart and prayers continue to the Martin family and all the Martin family that we dont even know about God Bless!!!

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    • wealthylady April 14, 2012 at 12:31 am

      One consolation I have, God is going to right this wrong! Keep praying for Trayvon’s family.

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  16. Ruth April 13, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    His mother explained what she meant when she used the word accident. She said thet it was an accident that they were in the same place at the same time.

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  17. Terry April 13, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    There is a perfectly good explanation of why she said that. She knows the FACTS of the case and she knows her son attacked that guy and was beating him, then grabbed for the gun and in the melee her son was shot and killed. There is no other reason she would say that. Who do you people think you are saying she should be silenced? Boyce the blabber mouth wants her to shut up? what a joke.

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    • Catlover April 13, 2012 at 10:18 pm

      I’m sure you have seen the pictures of Zimmerman since he has been sent to jail. For a guy who supposedly has a broken nose, it looks pretty darned good!

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    • wealthylady April 13, 2012 at 11:27 pm

      Terry have your ever considered “suicide” if not you should, the world would be a better place!

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      • Terry April 13, 2012 at 11:40 pm

        oh the lady(lady?) with a wealth of hate and stupidity. Why should I be suicidal ? Because I know that the little angel traylon punched Zimmerman in the nose,knocked him to the ground and was beating his head on the concrete sidewalk? Hey, you want to be a big tuff guy, be carefull the other person might be carrying a LAWFUL weapon, and you might end up dead. That’s life in the big boy world. Like Boyce says, we have a lot of other dead young people out there to worry about. Dozens have been murdered since Traylon died. What about them?

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        • wealthylady April 14, 2012 at 12:01 am

          You are as Sadistic & Deranged as Zimmerman! Like spirits connect!

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          • Terry April 14, 2012 at 12:10 am

            I’m sadistic and deranged and should commit suicide because I don’t agree with your backward *ss ignorant hateful self? Hahahhahahahahaha you’re a nut case and a fool. Quit talkin to me, I don’t have a check for you.

          • wealthylady April 14, 2012 at 12:14 am

            Terry, pucker up, I’m bending over now!

        • mike April 14, 2012 at 4:46 am

          Terry you actually do not know any of what you say you know. You have only one side of the story given by Mr. Zimmerman. Maybe we should wait until the trial before we declare anything to be true or false.

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    • geno4u April 14, 2012 at 1:05 pm

      @Terry: Would you do us all a favor and SHUT UP ! You’re sounding very IGNORANT ! Thank You ! SMH

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      • Terry April 14, 2012 at 4:25 pm

        Oh, I sound ignorant? You people sound like a bunch of cows mooing to me. The same old crybaby crap. First of all, this was a “person of color” that shot trayvon, remember that.

        It just is amazing how bent out of shape you are about this ONE incident. Really people, what about the other thousands of young black boys killed each year? Why are you so fixated on this one? Does it really make you feel good to talk about this so you can ignore the much bigger problems. Now I know you love talking about this horrible,racist country, and how you are all so put down every day by the devilish white people…but remember: whites are 18 times more likely to be murdered by a black person than the other way around. That’s right 18 times more likely.

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      • wealthylady April 15, 2012 at 12:24 am

        @Terry, better yet, do what you crazy, demented white men do. Go shoot up your family & then turn the gun on yourself.

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        • Daisy123 April 15, 2012 at 2:06 am

          @wealthylady, you hit that one out of the park! Terry, Rex and Playrighter are some twisted sick beings…Their twistedness will be returned to them!

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  18. KERRY HARRINGTON April 13, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    I Agree that it is time for Trayvon’s parents to halt their media appearances, especially since Zimmerman’s arrest. Zimmerman’s team is now in ‘defense’ mode: Lawyers doing their job for their client; exactly what is expected of any legal team – to do their job to the best of their ability.

    Another observation: The photo (on another website yesterday) of Attorney Crump, with his head on Trayvon’s mother’s shoulder. I think it looked a little unprofessional for an attorney to do this, even though I know it was prompted by his great relief at the long-awaited arrest of Zimmerman. I know and understand this, but a lot of the world is watching for any reason to diminish the respect that is due him as the family’s attorney.

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  19. Karen Richardson April 13, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    I thought when you hire an attorney they were to do your talking for you orat least groom you before you speak publicly. When this case was publicized nationally the Martin family’s attorney I felt talked too much he was always in front of the camera. They need to remain silent by cancelling further interviews and speeches because personally I think too much talking with the media, etc. could harm this case. I think everyone wants justice for Trayvon. P.S. remember the tabloids announced that George Zimmerman’s father is a former judge.

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  20. Lucille Fanniel April 13, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    Please shut those people up especially the mother She is no match for the media. too much is too much!!

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  21. Kimberly April 13, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    I want her 2 keep talking!Her son was killed…..her family is 4 ever changed!Through voice there is change!We don’t want this happening to anybody else!

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  22. leah April 13, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    Wow Rex! Who the hell are you to judge someone elses parenting methods? Someone or something in this case didn’t raise you right at all to make such ignorant and low class statements! The same argument can go for that fool Zimmerman. If someone had raised him correctly, maybe he would not have become such a monster on the streets, shooting people!

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  23. Kimberly Solomon April 13, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    I knew within my soul of souls that the Martins were going to be approached in liu of a payoff!!!! I told my daughters two weeks ago that this was going to happen just exactly like this. This action paralyzes any future actions against the injustices perpetrated against our young males of color!! How much are our young mens’ lives worth in todays’ society? What is the going rate? Who is this lawyer, and why was he or she not more active in dis-allowing this family to do interviews? Well, it’s a done deal now!!! I am severely disappointed about this situation.

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  24. Renelda Moorehead April 13, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Dr. Boyce is being superficially kind in his criticism of Sybrina Fulton. Nonsense! The mother of our murdered Trayvon Martin needs to step-off!!! What an idiot!!! Her words make me think she has been paid-off handsomely. It’s like, “my son is dead. I
    can’t bring him back, but this money will help to ease the pain.”
    I hope this is NOT THE CASE. But, one never knows, do one?

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    • wealthylady April 13, 2012 at 11:50 pm

      You are unbelievable!

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    • geno4u April 14, 2012 at 2:12 pm

      Go Back To Sleep !!!! smh

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  25. Torre` Brannon April 13, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    The mother is under a kind of stress that is hard to understand unless you’ve been in her shoes. I think the fact that she is active and involved is good for her, and allows her to not have to suffer in silence. So, I don’t think Dr. Boyce’s recommendation will be adhered to at this point. However, her statement will have no bearing in a court of law; although it could be used politically and in the court of public opinion. But, she has every right to stay active, stay involved. We can honor Trayvon by striking down some of these crazy laws like “stand your ground”, which is racist at its core. More important, I pray that we (Black people) can remain unified and inspired absent of national tragedies like this. It should not take tragedy to bring us together. And those of us who have little or no connection to our youth need to get involved in mentoring our youth. No more lame excuses and finger pointing at our youth, get involved or shut up.

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  26. Linda April 13, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    When I read the article, I’m just shook my head. Does she realize that she is giving ammonition to the Defense attorney, and that, Zimmerman may get off based on those very words?

    I agree, it’s time for her to get off the stage, and allow Travon’s father to speak from this point on. This woman’s son was chased down and shot, and she believe it was an accident. SMH

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  27. Woody April 13, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    We need to come around eachother in times of crisis, especially crisis involving violent death that is extrememly emotional and life changing. Historically in our black community leaders like Rev. Sharpton, Dr Jackson, The President and yourself Dr. Watkins as well as every Pastor and Family elder, assist folks in the survivor/victim position. Generally with wise counsel we demonstrate gracious, united and outstanding demeanor and appropriate responses to the media when there is good counsel. It is on the leaders to step in and lead…it is EQUALLY on every one of us when crisis hits to seek out our leaders and heed their counsel, knowing when we are in too deep and saying so. This mess this lady is speaking needs to be reigned in and her attorney(s) as well as counselors need to step up NOW or there will be issues because of the statements comming back to haunt this case that is finally starting to go in the correct direction. I feel horribly for their loss and Pray for their healing and strength. I also Pray that they do not do more damage because of ignorance of what can happen in the media when words are jockey’ed around or spoken while still in shock with no abillity to reflect and no voice to direct them while in shock.
    You are on point with this one Dr. Watkins and I hope they hear you.

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  28. Lucille Fanniel April 13, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    I did not know any one else felt the same as I did. When I saw that interview on MSNBC 4-12-12 with the Martin family suddenly the mother made a stupid statement about an accident, immediately I saw her attorney clinch his hands dropped in his posture I knew she had talked too much!!! To Late, I am sure this kid will walk and how sad!!! however,what goes around comes around!! Conscious time will catch up with old George!!

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  29. Chris April 13, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    It’s too bad that you didn’t put that much effort into your thought process before you made your comment.
    Her son was doing fine in school… this was his first suspension and there was no history of violence or “thuggery” within him.
    Now maybe if Zimmerman’s parents acted a little more diligently in his preparation, he wouldn’t be so hostile and quick to judge.
    I’d advise you to research instead of taking media’s judgments for gospel.

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  30. Q April 13, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    Rex & Terry, God has a plan for people like you, just keep being evil and see what happens…. You have to be a miserable person to sit behind a computer and spew hate. If that’s how you feel, why don’t you go somewhere where they feel the same as you do and have a ball…

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    • wealthylady April 14, 2012 at 12:25 am

      Rex & Terry are both to vile beings & it wil return to them!

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  31. LAWAZIZ April 13, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    We should all pray for TRAYVONE’S FAMILY,ESPECIALLY HIS MOTHER. I am sure that she is still in shock over the death of her young son. The country and good people from around the world are in symphathy with her and can feel her pain. The attorney should not allow the media to feast on her sorrow.He should stop the live interveiws .They should release prepared statements until “All of the evidence is known” Peace be with you,God Bless!

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  32. Zina April 13, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    I definitely agree that it’s time for Ms. Fulton to sit back and let the justice system “do what it do”. I have quite honestly cringed every time she has spoken in public. I’m not trying to be mean or insensitive at all, but she has said more than enough.

    @Pam. You are sooo right. She can do as many interviews as she would like, but let’s be honest….Everything done and said counts. Her “way of healing” could stop her healing mid stream if Zimmerman doesn’t receive the justice he so rightly deserves. Then what?

    IMO…At this point even if Trayvon’s mother were an MBA with the most eloquent speaking presence known to man, I would suggest ending the interviews. JM2C…

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  33. wanda April 13, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    I agree. These parents have done a yeoman’s job in seeking justice for their son, now it’s time for the judicial system to do it’s job. censorship is order for anyone even remotely connected to the case.

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  34. Untitled April 13, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    Yes, I agree the time has come for Trayvon’s parents to get out of the news spotlight. They have accomplished their goal of seeing George Zimmerman brought before the criminal justice system with the aid of millions of Americans of all races, creeds and ethnicity’s.

    Mis-speaking as his mother did yesterday by saying it was an accident is the result of constant and tiring appearances before news media who may or may not have the family’s well being in mind.

    Rex and Terry the best thing you two could do is to zip it as you sound exactly like what you are, jerks….The woman made a Freudian slip as the result of too much exposure and being on the go far too long after having her son’s life taken as it was…..The entire family has done a good job of retaining their composure non-stop for the last month.

    Namaste ! (The Christ in me salutes the Christ in them as well as you, Rex & Terry).

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  35. bernie April 13, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    Yes, Trayvon’s mother should bow out and not try to get any more TV recognition and her attorneys should instruct her to do so or else all that everybody has worked for, the conviction of George Zimmerman will be in vain. Everybody has been protesting and now he is in jail she need to stop talking. What is her problem?

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  36. Nita April 14, 2012 at 12:01 am

    I listened to her try to explain away why Trayvon was suspended, when she should have had her attorney at the school threatening to sue them if they didn’t let him back in. I would never allow anyone to kick my child out of school over a empty plastic bag alleging drug residue. Hell the news tell us 90% of the money in circulation has cocaine residue on it so you have to come with more than that. Next we have her saying all she wanted was for him to be arrested. Have we learned nothing from Rodney King, or Casey Anthony? An arrest means nothing, It’s a guilty verdict that matters. Then the topper was when she said it was an accident, arguing the man’s defense setting the stage for his acquittal. She should have stopped talking long ago. All she should be doing now is getting herself in her prayer closet and talking to the Lord. PLEASE stop talking to the media.

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  37. Rea Perry April 14, 2012 at 12:09 am

    This mother is still in deep, deep shock.
    The ‘Anesthesia of Shock’
    has taken hold to keep her alive. There is no time-frame for this element to encompess her; it’s a blessing from God, in order for her to survive this incomprehensible pain. I’ve been there! It could take months or years… there’s no way to know.

    It is indesputable that Trayvon was racially stalked; that Zimmerman ignored the advice from the police department on the phone, ‘ to stand down’. Instead, he CHOSE to continue to confront Trayvon, while carrying a loaded gun; and took his life in a matter of minutes. Of all the excuses his ‘team of defendants’ came up with to blow this off, the ‘SHAKEN BABY SYNDROME’ was the most ludicrous!!

    We MUST stand together on this matter! If not now… WHEN?
    Trayvon was at the pinnacle of his young life. What other mother’s child will be next??

    IF WE DON’T STAND FOR SOMETHING… WE WILL FALL FOR ANYTHING! The time to stand together is NOW!! Don’t let Trayvon’s death be in vain.

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    • playrighter April 14, 2012 at 7:25 am

      Rea Perry:

      Since NBC had to revoke their edited tape, CNN has determined that Zimmerman said “f-ing COLD”, and the official
      Arrest Affidavit concludes that Zimmerman did not make any racial statements, please explain how your arrived at:

      “It is indesputable that Trayvon was racially stalked”

      Thank you.
      PS: Daisy123: You have nothing to add. Please don’t try.

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      • Daisy123 April 14, 2012 at 9:51 am

        @ Playrighter, you’re showing I’ve made an impact on you, LOL! You still got a ways to go, and are still showing signs of being a liar in denial like Zimmerman. I also see you’ve toned down your silly reasonings since being put in your place. Your distorting of the facts shows your dishonesty…CNN did not conclude the murdering racist said FN Cold, that was stated by one of their apologist Soledad Obrien (who’s scared to piss off whites and racist like you) who stated her opinion, saying that’s what she hears. The part of the affidavit of which u speak claiming no racial slurs made came from Zimmerman’s attorney. No matter how you try and distort the facts, Zimmerman’s racist words Fuc_n COONS that you and the world know he said, along with the numerous lies he told, will seal his fate if 12 honest jurors can be found in Florida and are about real Justice. Unlike you who just won’t stop with your foolish denials of the obvious. Also your previous comment using Trayvon’s mom’s comment about it being an accident to try and justify your ridiculousness hasn’t worked for you either huh?LOL!

        Obviously I got plenty of game because you keep me in your thoughts and comments, so now take my advice Again, and repeat to yourself 100 times “I will stop being a racist, and denying the truth”.

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        • playrighter April 14, 2012 at 7:31 pm

          Daisy, Daisy, I don’t know what to do with you. I PS’d that you had nothing to add. You’ve not only proven it, you’ve shown yourself to be even MORE ignorant (even I’m surprised). At this point, you are either willfully ignorant or flat out LYING:

          1)The CNN video provided was NOT Soledad O’Brien — it was the
          CNN audio expert. (Try paying attention this time, don’t lie)
          2) The affidavit did NOT come from Zimmerman’s attorney: It is
          the official charging paper from the Special Prosecutor. Here
          you go: (try reading REALLY SLOW. and stop lying):
          http://www.thegrio.com/Zimmerman%20Affidavit.pdf
          3) I’m not racist, I’m not denying, I provide FACTS, you have no answer other than to lie. And you are DELUSIONAL!!!

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        • playrighter April 14, 2012 at 7:35 pm

          Daisy: Here’s your REALLY BIG CHANCE:

          Try, just try, to post a response that isn’t a
          made up lie complete with insane charges or racism
          and denial.

          Here’s a suggestion:
          Playrighter, I have nothing further to add at this
          time, and I know it’s childish to lie and call names and
          make baseless charges of racism based on nothing more
          than my own ignorance. Sorry. Have a nice day.
          (Feel free to cut and paste if that’s easier. Bonus: For once you will have a posting that tells the truth and makes sense!

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        • wealthylady April 14, 2012 at 9:32 pm

          Daisy, you go girl! I wouldn’t even converse with this Maggot. I don’t know why he’s on here anyway. I guess he is what he is!

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          • playrighter April 14, 2012 at 10:16 pm

            Wealthy Lady: I would assume that means you’ve bought some smarts, if not manners. Terry did little more than restate the existing EVIDENCE; in return you called him sadistic, deranged, and told him to commit suicide. How “wealthy” is that?

            I repeatedly offered EVIDENCE and kept asking Daisy to be CIVIL and back her charges, which she CANNOT do. For this, you call me a “maggot”?

            If those are your standards, you don’t understand the meaning of “converse”, unless you’re
            looking for an old sneaker.

            Here are some guidelines that perhaps both you and Daisy can try out

            Be alert for signs of bias, such as:

            * personal attacks on people
            * sarcastic language
            * sweeping generalizations unsupported by verifiable data
            * oversimplification of complex issues, and
            * ignoring or belittling opposing views”

            * Does the writer sound committed to communicating with readers? As a reader, do you feel like you are being addressed respectfully?
            * Does the writer support the claims with evidence?
            * Does the writer reveal how and where the evidence was obtained?
            * Does the writer recognize THAT OTHER POINTS OF VIEW MAY BE LEGITIMATE?
            * Does the writer reach a conclusion that is in proportion to the amount of evidence produced?

            It would be very nice if the writers in this forum, some of whom are very respectful, and some of whom spew insults and nastiness, would review the above. The only danger is that it might lead to a more relevant, civilized, helpful discourse

            Wealthy Lady:
            I make the same offer to you that I’ve made to Daisy: If you have something constructive to
            add, please do. I, for one, am tired of empty insults and lies from people with nothing
            legitimate to add.

          • wealthylady April 15, 2012 at 12:06 am

            I have ignored you, but since you have chose to address me. Pucker up! I’m bending over now!

          • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 12:24 am

            @Wealthy Lady: You did address me when you called me a “maggot” and disrespected me the same way you disrespected
            Terry. Our crime? Speaking the truth. Apparently, you and Daisy123 have a serious problem with the truth. Therefore, you both qualify for the title D.U.M.B.A.S.S.

            Don’t
            Understand
            Manners
            But
            Abundantly
            Slander &
            Spew

            Now that you’ve revealed your lower tendencies,
            what you two “females” (clearly not ladies) need
            to address is your ability to have an intelligent
            and civil exchange. So far, you’re giving a bad
            name to your side, and make it very hard for you
            to be taken seriously (except for those who think
            name calling and lies are “respectable)”

            As long as you’re bending over now, feel free to give
            yourself some “lip service”. My standards are way
            too high. (Probably why you two are so upset).

          • wealthylady April 15, 2012 at 12:26 am

            Are you done now!

          • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 12:38 am

            Wealthy Lady EVIDENTLY so….

            At least until you or Daisy123 take another baseless, cheap shot at me.

            Before you do, kindly read the guide to civil writing elsewhere in
            this thread. It can save you from having to bend over so much.

            BTW: What precisely makes you wealthy?

          • wealthylady April 15, 2012 at 2:16 am

            Moving on…….just saying

          • playrighter April 14, 2012 at 10:23 pm

            Sorry for the duplicate, I’m having trouble posting it where it belongs — right under the guide to good manners and objective writing.

            I must add that the above guidelines are not from
            me They were copied from someone on another site called

            “Good Luck With That” who took them from
            “The Writer’s Handbook”.

            I believe in giving credit where it is duel

            I’d like to give you some credit. Can you EARN it?

          • Daisy123 April 15, 2012 at 1:24 am

            @wealthylady, I totally agree that he’s a Maggot and have only entertained this fool because racist like him cannot stand to be challenged as you see the demonic rambling comes out in him when he’s challenged as he’s just done with you too…. I’m thru chopping him down…We’ve got more important issues to deal with…He’s on here because like you said he is what he is. He can’t help himself!!This racist clown who accuses others of name calling but thinks it’s ok for him to do it is so typical white priviledge mentality who thinks he so intellectual. As you see this racist fool is now trying to copy me with his silly corny comeback that falls as short as his ridiculous racist reasonings. I’m thru educating this fool!!! But thanks for the advice!!!

  38. Rev.Kelvin Hall April 14, 2012 at 1:09 am

    I am screaming loudly as I read this article because I said the same thing on yesterday morning after viewing the TODAY SHOW gaffe!Mr.Ben Crump,as the Martin family attorney,must silence all further interviews from his client involving the media.Enough said already man!THEY may have derailed their case with such a goofball statement!GO away now and grieve in private.NO more interviews:PERIOD!!!!

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  39. Wanda April 14, 2012 at 1:11 am

    I was going to respond to Rex’s ignorant comment, but you guys handled it wonderfully. Why is the VICTIM always at fault? Especially when it’s a young male African American. Basically what you’re doing, REX, is blaming the victim…..WOW and #smdh#

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  40. Augi3 April 14, 2012 at 2:43 am

    I appreciate the efforts of the family’s legal team. However, like most of us, this poor, grieving family isn’t communications savvy; apparently neither are their lawyers. Al Sharpen needs to fade out of the spotlight, too; at least for now. Even the most casual observer knows that for high profile legal events there ıs one person who speaks for their client.

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  41. Charlene Williams April 14, 2012 at 2:52 am

    This is the time when the less said the better.

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  42. Ny April 14, 2012 at 3:05 am

    I believe Sybrina Fulton a grieving Mother should not ever been able to speak about this case, and that her lawyers should only allow her to answer questions through them, when you have an attorney he/she should be the one who speaks for you. All this other crap about what she said and contradicting this or that is just not necessary to discuss, why isn’t the media trying to find out who was screaming on that 911 call by residents and elaborating on what some witnesses actually saw??? Seems as though some are looking for mistakes in the victims. Focus on proving that Zimmmerman was wrong for his actions and get his mentally ill ass lock up for the maximum time! We are living in a sick society!

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    • wealthylady April 14, 2012 at 9:37 pm

      Bam! you hit the nail on the head.

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      • playrighter April 14, 2012 at 10:19 pm

        I must add that the above guidelines are not from me.
        They were copied from someone on another site called

        “Good Luck With That” who took them from
        “The Writer’s Handbook”.

        I believe in giving credit where it is duel

        I’d like to give you some credit. Can you EARN it?

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  43. Roscoe Harvey April 14, 2012 at 3:30 am

    Those attorneys for Zimmerman are running with the mother said like an ape through the jungle. She may have helped lose her case.

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    • wealthylady April 14, 2012 at 9:35 pm

      I doubt it! the case is not about her statement.

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  44. MzzCoraE April 14, 2012 at 3:57 am

    Ms. Fulton needs to step to the side and let justice do its process. Her main goal was to get Trayvon’s murderer arrested. After millions of people signed petitions, marched and spoke out, that has now been accomplished.
    It has to hurt and she is delaying her grief with all this travel and speaking she is doing. She has to come down from the bubble and figure out how she is going to cope with this for the rest of her life.
    There are grief counselors and grief group sessions to learn to deal with grief. This may be something she might wish to look into for right now.
    If she and Trayvon’s father continue to make appearances, it will look like the two of them are seeking attention for themselves out of this horrid tragedy. Let go and let God, Ms. Fulton and Mr. Martin, and you will find rest from your labor.

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  45. Northpilot April 14, 2012 at 4:21 am

    There have been so many thoughtful comments in this thread, and they have given me a lot to think about. I notice that very few people are rising to the obvious bait of the trolls — their small, hateful minds always want people to get down in the gutter with them. I’m so proud that, when they spew their hateful comments, strong people just shake their heads and move on to a meaningful discussion about what this all means.

    I tend to agree with the comments that have pointed out that any halfway-competent judge will not allow immaterial opinions from the victim’s mother as evidence, nor will any attorney try to introduce them. They actually would not help Zimmerman, anyway. If I were a juror, and heard the mother say what she said, I would ask myself, “Does that sound like a family that raised a boy to attack someone mindlessly — as Zimmerman will probably claim happened? Or, is this a family that teaches their children to act with restraint, but demand respect?” This woman has put a human face to this murdered boy, and with her love and strength denied the defense any sympathy for Zimmerman. She’s remarkable!

    She has even got the puppet masters at Faux News to back off. What they would like to do, of course, is set Zimmerman up as a hero and defender of civilization (read “white civilization”) and Treyvon as the black bogeyman. Now, as the nation begins to associate with this unarmed boy-walking to the corner store for a snack, and has begun to share his family’s grief and bewilderment, Fox News’ has been reduced to asking, rhetorically, if Zimmerman is being “overcharged.” (Right… maybe it should be “manslaughter”, or “negligent homicide”, like he’d been drinking and had run over Treyvon, accidentally, instead of harassing, confronting, and killing him?).

    The Rethuglicans and Faux News Puppetmasters have got to play this one verrrrry carefully, lest it backfire on them. These guys like Hannity and O’Reilly are not stupid backwoods racists. They are educated men who cannot be blatantly racist, or they’ll lose their audience. But their assignment is a difficult one: to somehow fool a large middle and lower class, mainly white Christian, electorate to vote against their own interests, to vote against a centerist, born again Christian President, a competent, educated caring man with a beautiful wife and adorable children who has grown in the job to be a good President, and instead support an out-of-touch 250-millionaire (with money stashed in Swiss Bank Accounts, fer Chrissake…), a member of a historically racist sect church, who made his millions firing working class folks! There’s really nothing left but subtly playing the race card.

    As they try paint Obama as “Other”, Treyvon could be a useful subconscious symbol. But, it has to be done gently, slowly and deviously. White Americans are racist as hell, but they don’t like to think that they are. They can’t appear to attack an innocent child, or defend his killer, or attack a grieving family. For those of us with black sons, it’s easy to see Trevon as a person. I’m so shook by this that I have given my son the same old tired lecture once again: “Don’t argue or confront, unless you’re in public place; when the cops stop you, hands on the dash, etc., etc. ” he’s sick of it, I know. Treyvon’s mom, by speaking out, has helped white America make that connection, too, that “aha” moment when they think, “Hey, that could have been MY boy….”

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    • playrighter April 14, 2012 at 7:22 pm

      North Pilot: Anyone claiming Zimmerman may have been overcharged is stating the truth:
      Eminent Attorney and legal scholar Alan Dershowitz, before charges were made, said he thought Zimmerman would walk on charges of manslaughter.
      Charges of Second Degree Murder are much harder to prove, and need to show a level of premeditation (as I understand it). So it does look like he was overcharged. Fox
      has nothing to do with this being a legal reality.

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  46. MzzCoraE April 14, 2012 at 5:01 am

    I’ll tell you who also needs to shut up, and that’s the Zimmerman brother and father. They were not there. They don’t know what happened. All they know is what George Zimmerman told them, and that was a pack of lies to cover his ownself.

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    • playrighter April 14, 2012 at 7:47 pm

      True: Zimmerman’s relatives were not present at the shooting.

      But neither were Travyon’s parents.

      Both sides are trying to stand up for their kin.

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    • wealthylady April 15, 2012 at 12:14 am

      Not only do they need to sit down, Judge daddy Zimmerman has been covering this deranged fool. How else do you get 3 arrest expunged, especially one assaulting a police officer. The father needs to be investigated, there will probably be a lot of illegal stuff he was involved in.

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      • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 12:28 am

        W.L. You’ll likely have a hard time believing this, but I agree with this comment. If George Zimmerman’s father has interfered with the law being enforced, he should be punished appropriately.

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        • wealthylady April 15, 2012 at 2:13 am

          Say Whattttttt?????

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          • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 5:34 pm

            Please provide a link to your reports that Zimmerman’s father obstructed justice. As I said, if he’s guilty, he should pay.

            And as I’ve also repeatedly said, I want to see EVIDENCE, no matter who it goes against.

            Since you seem to know something others don’t about the father obstructing justice, please provide the source. Thank you.

          • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 8:36 pm

            MzzCoraE:
            Thank you for the link.
            I also question why Zimmerman would have a gun
            after these incidents.
            Was an investigation done as to why the charges
            were dismissed?
            (To my ORIGINAL QUESTION, asked of someone else):
            How do we know Zimmerman’s father was involvde?

          • MzzCoraE April 15, 2012 at 8:51 pm

            Playright (or is it Playwrong?> you’ll have to learn research skills or pay me to do research for you. I have told you that my comments are my own opinion. Answer your own questions.

          • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 9:05 pm

            MzzCoraE: You offered information after my original question to someone else. By responding, I put the question out again for ANYBODY to answer. I don’t know what resources other people have, that’s why I asked. I’m acknowledging that somebody may have a resource I’m unaware of.

            Aren’t we all here to try and learn something?

            BTW: I was paid for years by law firms to do their research for them. I’m quite capable of doing research.

      • Daisy123 April 15, 2012 at 1:33 am

        @wealthylady you see how sick playrighter really is? He figures if he throws in a little common sense, and agree with 1 truth but denies the other 152 truths and evidence that doesn’t make him a racist…He and the likes of him are truly scary huh?

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        • wealthylady April 15, 2012 at 2:18 am

          LOL…I just wonder is he is black or white.

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          • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 6:49 pm

            Wealthy Lady: I sincerely want to know:
            What do race — or gender — have to do with this?
            Are you presupposing that I’m either a sell-out black or a racist white? You assume I’m a guy.
            Shouldn’t this be Right or Wrong, rather than
            Black or White or Asian or Hispanic or Indian or
            multi-racial?

            Why would it matter?

            Could you possibly be profiling me?

          • wealthylady April 15, 2012 at 7:14 pm

            You profiled yourself!

          • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 7:17 pm

            “Wealthy” : Please just answer the question.
            It’s a fair question, is it not?

            BTW, since I’m not profiling you, why “wealthy”?

      • MzzCoraE April 15, 2012 at 5:51 am

        No wonder George Zimmerman has felt such liberty to be as belligerent. Everytime he has done anything, his daddy has wiped the slate clean for him. If his felony arrest for fighting with an officer had not be expunged by his daddy, Zimmerman would not have been able to get a gun permit. And you know something? We wouldn’t be discussing this and wouldn’t even know who Trayvon Martin is/was. His father should be arrested for obstruction of justice or something. You’re right, no telling what else old man Zimmerman has done that’s illegal.

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        • Sherrie C April 15, 2012 at 1:13 pm

          @Northpilot, I totally agree…@Daisey123 before I saw your reply we had the same thought in our spirit. That’s confirmation for me!

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  47. JC April 14, 2012 at 5:13 am

    Yes, she has been a strong mother and now it is time to step aside and let her attorneys take over because she has already made a statement that the media is trying to twist her words. I was stunned when I heard the statement she had said. It’s time to stop talking.

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    • Northpilot April 14, 2012 at 5:41 am

      Point taken, JC. Have a good weekend!

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  48. Chris Martin April 14, 2012 at 5:13 am

    What G. Zimmerman has to explain is if Trayvone had him down beating him how was he able to shoot the kid in the chest without getting covered in Trayvone’s blood?

    And, If the lawyer is going to permit Mrs. Martin to speak to the media, he needs to prepare her better or be ready to stop the interview. I’m sure the big networks are scramlin for these interviews in the name of ratings….

    Hence, I’m farily certain that these shows are paying a pretty hefty licensing and video fees (wink, wink) for these interviews with the Martins; I mean the bills still have to be paid right?
    I’m just saying…

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    • playrighter April 14, 2012 at 7:45 pm

      I, too, would like to know what happened to the blood that
      must have been shed when Trayvon was shot. Also, how did
      he end up on his stomach?

      Zimmerman’s current picture doesn’t show signs of the nose injury, but a broken nose can look healed in a few weeks, and it’s been six weeks since the shooting.

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  49. Merendie stewart April 14, 2012 at 5:59 am

    Attorney Crump, the parents and the step/brother should all SHUT UP! I almost fainted when treyvons parents did an interview w/ racist nancy grace! If Crump and associates can recognize the great injustices against black males maybe they should put their legal abilities towards lobbying congress for more justice instead of parading around all the morning and evening talk shows. And if i have to sit through one more cnn soledad obrien soft interview ii will scream! Ns fulton and mr martin do yourselves a favor and shut up!

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  50. Daisy123 April 14, 2012 at 6:43 am

    Boyce is on point!…My prayers go out to Trays mom and dad but their attorneys should have stopped the direct interviews well before now because you could see it coming….There is a bigger picture here because we all know what happened to her son Trayvon has happened to many before him and continues to occur all over our Nation. Trayvon’s senseless racist murder has happened at a time when we have had enough that has ignited us to rally and support them for Justice for their son and all the other innocent Blacks as well. This is the time to demand accountability for the senseless racist murders of Blacks and force our Justice System to re-open ALL cases involving Blacks being murdered and those given unfair sentences at the hand of racist Judges, Prosecutors, in-ept Lawyers etc. while seeking Justice for Trayvon.

    Yes, Trayvon’s mom has a right to say what she feels, but I would hope she realizes this is not only about her and her son. Justice for other innocent Black victims, their families and those who have worked tirelessly to support them getting Justice are riding on this too. The lack of accountability of this unfair Justice System and the reluctance of some Blacks and those who support Justice for ALL to call out, stop these racist and demand gutting out this racist system before her tragedy is one of the reasons why her son was profiled and senselessly and hatefully murdered by a racist, raised by a racist Judge. This clearly is no accident.

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  51. Daisy123 April 14, 2012 at 6:51 am

    Boyce is on point!…My prayers go out to Trays mom and dad but their attorneys should have stopped the direct interviews well before now because you could see it coming….There is a bigger picture here because we all know what happened to her son Trayvon has happened to many before him and continues to occur all over our Nation. Trayvon’s senseless racist murder has happened at a time when we have had enough that has ignited us to rally and support them for Justice for their son and all the other innocent Blacks as well. This is the time to demand accountability for the senseless racist murders of Blacks and force our Justice System to re-open ALL cases involving Blacks being murdered and those given unfair sentences at the hand of racist Judges, Prosecutors, in-ept Lawyers etc. while seeking Justice for Trayvon.
    Yes, Trayvon’s mom has a right to say what she feels, but I would hope she realizes this is not only about her and her son. Justice for other innocent Black victims, their families and those who have worked tirelessly to support them getting Justice are riding on this too. The lack of accountability of this unfair Justice System and the reluctance of some Blacks and those who support Justice for ALL to call out, stop these racist and demand gutting out this racist system before her tragedy is one of the reasons why her son was profiled and senselessly and hatefully murdered by a racist, raised by a racist Judge. This clearly is no accident.

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    • Sherrie C April 14, 2012 at 12:59 pm

      @Daisy123 You are on point as well… I am pleased you set out everything from the legal side, being that I have been the victim of the legal workplace for the past 27 years and have witnessed the disparities in the court system and misrepresentation and lies permeated throughout law firms. Thanks for the in depth and pointed comments, which are absolutely right on!

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      • Daisy123 April 14, 2012 at 6:58 pm

        So sorry for your loss! We should appeal to Boyce to help us advance efforts to overhaul this current racist legal system and environment. We know there are many already working on these issues but we need for Boyce to setup a summitt so we can come together having a serious agenda to do a plan of action that is uncompromising that sends a message ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! We need a Racial Justice Summit THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE SOLEDAD OBRIEN in any lead or facillating role, she can sit in the audience and observe.

        We need Real Talk, Real Action with a Real Progressive Movement that will result in New Leadership Boyce speaks about neede, and sustained action to remove the racist Judges, Legal Processes, Law Enforcement, racist Media and Tokens etc. Lets do this…Do you have any ideas?

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  52. Deacon April 14, 2012 at 8:47 am

    Point taken
    Some important factors though :
    She is a grieving mother so she is not thinking straight
    She is a civilian in the struggle so she is not aware of the strategies
    She might be right; it may have been a foolish accident
    The existing laws in this situation need to be carefully evaluated
    I heard the States attorney may have charged Zimmerman with something that can’t stick under the present law; that may have been purposeful

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  53. Milagros April 14, 2012 at 11:32 am

    One cannot overstand the pain this woman is suffering And yes I believe that it is time to set her down. However, speaking is also therapy and good for her in many ways..For that reason i say KEEP TRAYS FACE IN THE PUBLIC, because if we do not they will forget him.. which is why the games are about to begin.This case is messed up the judge has a husband who is not compromised and the murderers atty is asking that she step down? The deal appears to already be on the table? Did u know where Zimmie was hiding the entire time..Post that DOC, this way all will overstand what i am saying..As a retired former Atty i left the career because of the grave indifference to Afrikan life.. The system is set up to exclude certain people from achieving JUSTICE and preclude others

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  54. Milagros April 14, 2012 at 11:50 am

    i would bet a paycheck that all of those Or lets say the majority of those who want Trayvons mother to hush look like Zimmerman? or worse

    gracias

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    • Daisy123 April 14, 2012 at 7:12 pm

      Majority of us who want her to hush do look like her, and have some understanding that this issue is exactly about race. This issue is Specifically against Blacks and it is not only about Trayvon but includes countless other murdered innocent and unfairly charged Blacks and a racist system and environment that breeds and allows it to happen. She should step away because she is hurting the cause for real Justice!

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  55. Chris Martin April 14, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    For some reason, my comments were not posted. But Iwill try again, question that zimmerman must answer, if he was supposedly down and being beaten how was able to shoot the kid and not get any of Trayvon’s blood on him

    As far as Mrs. Martin speaking out, her attorney failed her by allowing her to speak in this way

    And finally keep in mind that although the networks will never admit to paying for interviews, the tv networks call it something else like payment for licensesing or video charge. Nevertheless, victim relatives are paid quite hefty sums for “talking” its all in the name of ratings

    Bills still must be paid right? I’mjust saying…

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  56. Matt Martinez April 14, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    I think she is seeing it for what it really was. This isn’t about cold blooded murder or about race.

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    • Daisy123 April 14, 2012 at 6:22 pm

      What you see from her is years of being beaten down by racism and a lack of knowledge of the real issues allowing her son’s murder and attempted coverup. Would you say the same if Zimmerman murdered a Hispanic/Mexican/Latino and called him a bean eater, boarder jumper or demanded a green card before murdering him?

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      • playrighter April 14, 2012 at 8:20 pm

        Daisy…it’s getting a bit tiring trying to drag your rock solid mind
        back to the facts, but let’s try this again:

        Matt made a reasonable statement that this isn’t about cold-blooded murder or race. Daisy to the rescue with the RACE CARD. (Whoopee!) And you call others racists?

        Again: there is ZERO evidence that Zimmerman ever referred to Martin in a racist way. For the umpteenth time, girl:

        Prove it, or give it up. (and that doesn’t mean make it up!)

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        • Daisy123 April 15, 2012 at 1:48 am

          PLAYRIGHTER! GO STAND IN THE CORNER AND REPEAT TO YOURSELF 100 TIMES “I WILL STOP BEING A RACIST”! Then maybe your racist ears will finally be unclogged and accept the truth of hearing Zimmerman call the child a FUC_KN COON! You know he said it and so does the rest of the world. Now go stand in the corner until you get it right!!!!

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          • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 7:04 am

            @Daisy123:

            First of all. Kindly take a couple of minutes and read ALL of this before you respond with charges. You might even change your mind.

            LET’S GET REAL. This exchange started at 7:25 Am on April 14 when Rea Perry wrote “It is indesputable that Trayvon was racially stalked.”
            As that is contrary to all the evidence I’d seen, I gave her the conflicting evidence and asked how she arrived at her conclusion. Not exactly racist
            or in any way unfair. In the midst of your attacks, I have repeatedly asked you to be civil and back your charges. Instead, I
            keep getting more insults and “untruths” for a full two days. (NOTE: Rea didn’t respond. Maybe because she realized she was in error???)
            But that didn’t seem to matter to you, you just jumped in with your attacks. Why? What do you have against asking for FACTS?

            You spent two full days attacking and insulting me, even jumping into threads that had nothing to do with me to call me names. Why?
            And then you attacked me because I agreed with someone, while claiming I denied “the other 152 truths and evidence”. OH REALLY????

            I will say this as kindly and civilly as I can. You say 152. Give me ONE “truth” that I denied. Please. It must be a “truth”, not an opinion.

            I have been clarifying facts that were wrong based on research I’ve done, asking for more information on things I wasn’t clear on, correcting
            erroneous information (based on EVIDENCE, not my opinion), and attempting to keep this discussion from having racial biases. I hope you agree
            it is just as wrong to convict Zimmerman because he is not black, as it is to blame Trayvon because he is black. Do you agree? in fact your
            charges of racism against me are rather curious, since you don’t even know my race. Or my gender, for that matter.

            While I have repeatedly asked for EVIDENCE and CIVILITY, here’s what you’ve called me: Sick and twisted, liar, in denial (2 times), silly,
            distorting (2 times) dishonest –twice –(for telling you what CNN concluded about “f-ing COLD, and correcting your wrong charge that Zimmerman’s
            attorneys supplied the affidavit — it was from the Prosecuting Attorney), foolish (4 times) ridiculous, maggot, demonic, clown, sick, scary,
            and your favorite term “RACIST” — 9 times. But then you used “racist” 22 times in your posts, so you clearly have a feel for the word.

            [[I know, that's way too much detail. This is because I work hard to deal with FACTS, not opinion. Which is why it's frustrating when you
            keep calling me names and insisting I'm a liar when all I'm doing is relaying the FACTS and EVIDENCE as they are now known. If I'd been making
            stuff up, you'd have a point. But if you check my posts and your posts and the known FACTS, you'll see I haven't been making stuff up.]]

            I will politely ask again: If you can demonstrate that I have said ANYTHING racist or untrue, please do it now. I know you can’t. I think you
            also know you can’t, which is why you keep attacking to distract from that fact. However, if you think you can, go ahead.

            Just lay off the name calling and insults and silly charges of racism. You should be much better than that. Thank you.

          • MzzCoraE April 15, 2012 at 4:33 pm

            State Attorney Angela Corey’s Affadavit clearly states> that George Zimmerman acted after he profiled Trayvon Martin.

            The question would be: Why Zimmerman profile Trayvon Martin? Was Trayvon Martin profile because 1.) He was tall? 2.) He was walking in a public place where he had every right to be? 3.) It was raining and Trayvon Martin was wearing a hoodie? 4.) Trayvon Martin was a Black male?

            Make only one choice and you will see what the State Attorney is implying.

  57. Not_Me_4_That April 14, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    What an unfortunate and shocking misstatement for the mother to have made. I agree. Mother has done all that she could and she has done her part. Now she needs to hide in the shadow of the cross, rest in the arms of JESUS secure in the knowledge that the battle is not hers but the LORD’s and let the attorneys take it from here.

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  58. playrighter April 14, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    Wealthy Lady
    I must add that the above guidelines are not from me.
    They were copied from someone on another site called

    “Good Luck With That” who took them from
    “The Writer’s Handbook”.

    I believe in giving credit where it is duel

    I’d like to give you some credit. Can you EARN it?

    (Sorry, this was put in the wrong place)

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  59. rpbt April 14, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    I agree with the responder who statedn that Trayvon’s mother should just be still and rest in Jesus’ arms. She has done what she could on behalf of her precious son, now she should allow qualified indivuals do their job. She “needs” to grieve and allow her family, friends, and most of all Jesus Christ comfort and give her the personal support and care that she needs so much at this point. It’s all in the Hands of the Lord, now…God is in control!!!

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  60. Pakuo April 14, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    Trayvon’s mother seems to be a dear sweet and too forgiving lady. However she really need to step away from the microphone. I was aghast when she made that comment about that monster accidentally murdering her son! She can try to dial it back, but it’s set in stone now, and Zimmerman’s team will use that against her.

    Another thing about the Martin family that bothers me is them saying, they aren’t angry, just sad! Really?? And the comment about god is good after the video of that asshole’s photo proved him to be a liar. Really?? God is good after that animal snuffed out your child’s life! And them saying, they only want an arrest and not a conviction! Are you serious?? Their lawyer needs to take the whell aaa . That zimmerman’s gonna walk

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  61. Boyce Call a Truce! April 15, 2012 at 12:17 am

    sad to hear boyce and rev sharpton are not speaking.

    black people came together for t martin…sure would be nice to see watkins, sharpton, tavis, joiner and harvey make a public appearence showing forgiveness and a commitment to work together for the betterment of black people.

    boyce can you make it happen?

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  62. scarlet morgan April 15, 2012 at 3:26 am

    At the end of the day it is Trayvon’s mother and father who grieve for him most. We are just supporters who want to assist so justice is served. Whatever Trayvon’s mother says or doesn’t say is fine. It’s her son and not ours who lost his life. She’s the woman who carried and birthed him. How dare Dr. Boyce or anyone else critisize her for saying how she feels even if we disagree with the position she takes. Dr, Boyce is a smart man and I respect his work. I must say however that there are times when I feel he has a real problem providing meaningful support to black women. He’s great when it comes to speaking up for black men, but not so great assisting black women.

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  63. Northpilot April 15, 2012 at 3:46 am

    Playrighter: Alan Dershowitz’ comments on this matter have been considerably more nuanced than that “he thought [Zimmerman] would walk on charges of manslaughter.”

    First of all, he said:
    “Any such predictions should be accepted with an abundance of caution, however, because the evidence known to the special prosecutor, but not to the public, may paint a different picture. It may be stronger or weaker.”

    If the special prosecutor feels that she has evidence to charge Zimmerman with 2nd degree, shouldn’t we hear those charges in court?

    Second, Dershowitz added:

    “If Zimmerman initially provoked the deadly encounter, then he cannot invoke any “stand your ground” defense. He would then be under a legal obligation to “exhaust … every reasonable means to escape.”

    Can anyone really claim that Zimmerman had “exhausted …every reasonable means to escape.”? The police dispatcher told him repeatedly NOT to pursue Martin. Had Zimmerman heeded her instructions and not pursued Martin, there would have been no need to “escape”, at all. You seem to forget that Zimmerman was not a citizen going about his business, or defending himself, or protecting his neighborhood (he fulfilled that duty once he called the dispatcher and reported his suspicions — pretty much a rambling description of a young man WWB, Walking While Black” in his (white) neighborhood. No, Zimmerman was hardly making an effort to escape an aggressor, but was instead someone basically stalking and harassing a young man who was going about HIS lawful business! It’s hard to see how the “Stand Your Ground” statute will protect Zimmerman’s brutal homicide.

    It’s interesting that you quote Dershowitz, especially considering his summation of the political and moral dimensions of this tragedy. He wrote:

    “Finally, there is the overarching and historically painful reality that an unarmed black teenager lies dead at the hand of an armed Hispanic man who ignored a dispatcher’s advice not to follow and engage the “suspect,” and who may have — and this too is forensically unclear — uttered a racial epithet while chasing him.”

    As for Fox News’ motives in this election cycle, I stand by my statements. I think they have shown (by their large contribution directly to the Republican Party, for instance), that they are simply a propaganda arm of the Republican party. Certainly every news organization tends to have an editorial bent, but Fox News really goes over the top.

    Playrighter, in reading your comments, may I respectfully suggest that you might be more effective and influential if you drop the supercilious and pedantic tone? Instead of calling out us simple fools from your lofty perch of erudition, why not just speak to the issue at hand? I, for one, would tolerate your racist and condescending tone if there were a little more intellectual rigor behind it.

    I look forward to hearing your viewpoint.

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    • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 5:32 am

      North Pilot: What “pedantic and supercilious tone? I’m not calling people fools nor claiming superiority, but I am calling out Daisy and Wealthy Lady for
      stooping into the gutter to call me names and — in Daisy’s case — repeatedly lie and say dumb things. (calling me a racist for stating what the evidence is, and
      calling me a liar because she won’t listen to the 911 tapes). And if YOU think I’m a racist, since you seem to have some decency, KINDLY TELL ME ANYTHING
      that would give you that impression. I am not a racist, you don’t even know my race, and I work very hard to be fair — and civil — or I would have returned
      Daisy’s crap with more crap. Notice I haven’t sunk to her level. Her latest attack on me is for AGREEING with Wealthy Lady. Does she have an agenda?

      Now then, to your points. And if you know how I can point out “clarifications” in what you apparently got wrong without offending your further, please do.

      1) After the Second Degree Murder charges, Dershowitz went further and called the charges “irresponsible and unethical”. I believe, in my humble opinion,
      that this backs my contention that it’s going to be much more difficult to convict on these more serious charges. Do you disagree?

      2) You claim Zimmerman was repeatedly told not to pursue. Sorry, NO. He was told ONCE “You don’t need to do that”. He said “OK” (Unless you have
      some 911 tape that I have yet to hear, your “facts” do not match with the prevailing evidence).

      3) You claim Zimmerman was after Martin for “Walking While Black”. Again, please check the 911 tape. Zimmerman wasn’t even sure of Martin’s race
      at first. When asked “Black, white or Hispanic?”, he said “He looks black.” The hoodie has become a national symbol of “racism. That very same hoodie
      would have made it very difficult for Zimmerman to tell the race of the unknown person, especially in the rain. True?

      4) You claim with your “WWB” charge that this was a white neighborhood. So far, we know that Martins are black, and Zimmerman Hispanic. What makes
      you think the neighborhood is “white”?

      5) I don’t recall ever mentioning Fox, although I did ask why someone would consider this a Conservative vs. LIberal question.

      6) I am NOT being condescending. I’m trying to remain civil in asking legitimate questions about differences of opinion on evidence — and repeatedly
      told I’m a racist or a maggot or a liar — for trying to explain what the evidence says. CNN says “f-ing COLD”, not me. And I’m the racist for relaying this
      fact to somebody who refuses to take CNN’s word for it?

      7) I don’t have a racist bone in my body. As I have written, were the roles reversed, I would be saying the same things for Martin.

      8) Take a good look at what I have actually written — and perhaps the attacks I have defended against, some of them mean-spirited and dishonest.
      If you really think I’m unfair in any way — or even racist in any way, kindly tell me why. That’s about as direct as I can be speaking to the
      issue at hand. I don’t really care much about “intellectual rigor”. I’m just trying to tell the truth, and i don’t like false charges made against me.

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    • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 5:35 am

      NorthPilot: PS: I have no idea where the emoticon came from. In order to answer all your points, I had to cut and paste (from my email program). It just showed up. I didn’t do it.

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  64. MzzCoraE April 15, 2012 at 5:57 am

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    • MzzCoraE April 15, 2012 at 5:59 am

      State Attorney Angela Corey’s Affadavit of Probable Cause 2nd Degree Murder can be found @ http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/04/12/zimmerman.affidavit.pdf

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      • Daisy123 April 15, 2012 at 7:48 am

        This affidavit clearly states it is not a complete recitation of the facts, and conveniently excludes Zimmerman’s muttering of Fuc_kn Coon…The original 911 tapes release to the public were from the Sanford Police not NBC that clearly contained Zimmerman’s racial slur FnCoons not FnCold…NBC with it’s editing came after Sanford Police released them. NBC intentional or not created a red herring ironically on the racial slur?? Potential miscarriage of Justice, because we all know this is clearly a hate crime….MzC thanks for posting, it exposes the racist intellect’s attempt to distort and deny the facts…

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        • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 2:45 pm

          @Daisy: Chalk up another “Racist” charge, still no proof.

          BTW, the link she gave is the SAME ONE I gave you earlier.

          You are right, it is not a complete list of the facts. But it has the
          official version of the evidence, and does NOT say “coon”.

          Why would this document “conveniently exclude” that word, if it’s part of the case against Zimmerman? Without evidence, we do NOT ‘clearly know this is a hate crime” as you claim.

          I am still, as I ALWAYS have been (if you read my words) open to new evidence.
          You claim these tapes CLEARLY show Zimmerman saying “coon”. I have never
          heard them. Here’s where you can prove your point.

          Kindly provide the link to those tapes clearly saying “coon”.

          If you CAN do this, I’ll change my opinion. That’s only fair, right??

          If you CAN’T, there must be a good reason, right???

          Thank you for your contribution to our understanding of the EVIDENCE in this case.

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  65. Northpilot April 15, 2012 at 6:52 am

    MzzCoraE: Thank you for searching this out and posting it for us, although it makes brutal reading. Who cannot share the horror of this terrified and innocent boy, running thru the night from his pursuer, like so many black men (and women) have run for their lives before him, run from the bounty hunters, from the Night Riders, and now from this vigilante, wanna be cop?

    Not this time, no how, no way!

    May Justice Triumph!

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    • Daisy123 April 15, 2012 at 7:50 am

      @ Northpilot I totally agree!

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  66. Obama Supporter April 15, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG! THE MARTIN FAMILY IS THE ONLY FORCE FOR JUSTICE IN THIS CASE. THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN INFLUENCE THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO LOOK INTO THE POSSIBLE COVER UP OF “.THE RACIAL SLUR”

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  67. Northpilot April 15, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    The ironic thing that the Tea-Bagger Rethuglicans probably didn’t envision when they cooked up the ‘Stand Your Ground’ law, is that Martin, not Zimmerman, would have been exonerated by this law, if he had somehow managed to wrest the gun from Zimmerman’s hands and shot HIM and killed him. The problem is not that Martin managed to inflict a cut or bruise on Zimmerman as he struggled to survive. The problem is that he did too much, but that he did not do ENOUGH damage to survive and escape he pursuer.

    Of course, we all know that the police would have applied the same standard of fairness to Martin, if he had been the one left standing. They would have interviewed the boy, determined that he had been going about his lawful business, been set upon, and then had merely stood his ground. And then they would have released him….. We know this because white southern cops have a history of fair-play and of applying the law where black men are concerned…

    Oh yes… They are known for ‘Play[ing]Right.

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    • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 5:49 pm

      @North Pilot While I don’t think “Castle Doctrine” laws, including “Stand Your Ground” have anything to do with political parties, I believe Trayvon Martin did have the same rights under the law as George Zimmerman, and (as I have repeatedly said), if the roles were reversed and Martin were being “lynched” by the writers here, I would be defending his position (while admitting the evidence is not all in, as I have).

      White southern cops do have a racist history. But to impugn me in your rightful vilification of them is unfair. “Play Right” means play fair to EVERYONE (see all of my writings above).

      Unfortunately, sometimes emotions overrule evidence, and some people have a hard time
      being CIVIL when somebody else might be RIGHT.

      I would still appreciate your response to my reply answering your previous questions.

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  68. MzzCoraE April 15, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    State Attorney Angela Corey’s Affadavit clearly states> that George Zimmerman acted after he profiled Trayvon Martin.

    The question would be: Why did Zimmerman profile Trayvon Martin? Was Trayvon Martin profiled because 1.) He was tall? 2.) He was walking in a public place where he had every right to be? 3.) It was raining and Trayvon Martin was wearing a hoodie? 4.) Trayvon Martin was a Black male?

    Make only one choice and you will see what the State Attorney is implying.

    *Ms. Corey did not include everything in her affadavit because it would not be appropriate to release evidence at this juncture. She only needed to say why Zimmerman was being charged. The evidence she has will come out in the trial. She had to have a significant reason to charge him with 2nd Degree Murder as opposed to Manslaughter, which is easier to prove.

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    • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 5:40 pm

      MzzCoraE: You make an interesting point, and we’re all looking forward to seeing what comes out in trial. Although if the charge
      includes racial profiling, why doesn’t the affidavit say so?

      “Profiling” can mean a lot of things to a lot of people. And there is also a 5th option you might consider: An unknown person whose identity could not be ascertained because of the rain and hoodie was walking in a gated community which had been hit with several break-ins with posted signs saying “We report all suspicious persons and activity to the Sanford Police Department.” Is that also a fair choice?

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      • MzzCoraE April 15, 2012 at 8:23 pm

        Neither am I on trial here nor am I State Attorney Angela Corey. I am someone commenting just as are you. I can’t portend to know all this case involves. I can only say what I think and sometimes why I think it.

        Since you question the veracity of my comments, I would humbly recommend that you move on to those statements you do support.

        Do have yourself a lovely day.

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        • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 8:56 pm

          MzzCoraE: Sorry you took offense. I tried to ask a fair question.
          I did not question the veracity of your comments. I questioned why the affidavit avoided any mention of race
          when so much of this case has ended up being about race.
          The question was aimed at everybody reading here, as you
          will notice different people answer different questions here.
          I’m looking for answers here. I assume you are, as well.
          You are not on trial here — although it certainly seems that I am, with my nearly every comment being attacked. You gave
          four options for what profiling might mean. I merely offered a
          fifth, and asked you if it were also a fair choice Why would
          you take that personally? Isn’t my option what the defense will likely present at trial?

          BTW: “You make an interesting point” does not “question your veracity”.

          Can someone ask a fair and honest question without offending someone?
          Are there some hidden rules on this site I should be aware of?

          This is not a put down. This is an honest question. I do NOT understand why
          my question would offend you, as that was not my intention.
          what the defense will likely present at trial?

          BTW: “You make an interesting point” does not “question your veracity”.

          Can someone ask a fair and honest question without offending someone?
          Are there some hidden rules on this site I should be aware of?

          This is not a put down. This is an honest question. I do NOT understand why
          my question would offend you, as that was not my intention.

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          • MzzCoraE April 15, 2012 at 9:10 pm

            1.) If your question is for the board, don’t mention names or call out only one person.

            2.) Own the problem. Say that you are having difficulty understanding something and why.

            3.) Research answers to your own questions and use those answers in your comments.

            4.) Do not question the right(s) of others to call it as they see it. Be respectful of the right of others to see things differently than do you.

            5.) This is not hard science, it’s pretty much emotion-based. It’s also not a back and forth discussion board. Also this can be a learning experience, but it’s not school.

            6.) There are no right or wrong answers, there are only opinions.

          • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 9:31 pm

            MzzCoraE: I address my comment to the person on the email notification I receive. I do own “the problem.” I state what I know and ask about the conflicting position. I wasn’t aware that I could put out a question to “the board”. I note that YOU answered a question asked of SOMEONE ELSE. Is it wrong to assume this could happen again? Kindly read my comments and tell me how I haven’t researched my own information, and used that in my questions. Seems that’s what you were just criticizing me for. I am respectful of others, unless they’ve been repeatedly disrespectful to me — and even them I am courteous by comparison. When you are repeatedly attacked on one of these sites, you have a legitimate right to defend yourself. You might call it “Stand Your Ground”. And if someone “knows” something I don’t, what’s wrong with asking them to provide the source of their information?

            If you can show me where I questioned the right of someone to have a different opinion PLEASE DO. I am all for self-improvement. If you have found me disrespecting the right of someone to a different viewpoint, likewise. If I have asked legitimate questions regarding evidence I am unaware of, kindly note such. There are opinions, and they are taken as such. However, when I cite EVIDENCE and am called a LIAR, then I have a right to respond by pointing out the EVIDENCE. And when I’m repeatedly called a liar, racist, fool, maggot, or told to kiss somebody’s butt because I’m trying to keep this conversation OBJECTIVE, I have a right to speak out and try and keep things on track.

            There are opinions, and there are also facts. When someone misstates accepted facts, is it wrong to try and correct that misinformation for everyone on the board?

            And yes, there are wrong answers. When someone asks a legitimate question and is called a liar and a racist, that is wrong.

            Kindly tell me where I am out of line. Thank you.

          • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 9:51 pm

            MzzCoraE: And yes, this one is specifically for YOU.

            # 5 above: This is “not a back and forth discussion board.”

            Then, pray tell, what is it? From what I see on this page, a “back and forth discussion board” is exactly what this is.

            What am I missing?

          • wealthylady April 15, 2012 at 11:13 pm

            Playright I’m going to answer a couple of your questions, then I am through where you are concerned. You asked if I was profiling you, your profiled yourself “out of the mouth the heart speaks” You told me everything about you by the evil words you spoke. You are one of the ppl that like to “engage” others in meaningless debate & rhetoric that takes away from the true issues. I won’t get roped into that one…example what is the basis of my username “wealthylady. What does that has to do with the price of tea in china? This is what attorneys do to confuse “jurors” who don’t use their spiritual eyes & ears.

          • playrighter April 16, 2012 at 7:16 am

            WL Thanks for nothing. You didn’t answer any of my real questions. (I asked about your “wealthy” because you said I was
            profiling myself.) The questions STILL STAND: 1) How do you know that Zimmerman’s father obstructed justice? (You claim he did). 2) What does race have to with my answers? (again, you brought it up. & 3) Have you considered the standards above?

            If you lived by those standards, you wouldn’t be accusing me of things I haven’t done, and you wouldn’t be calling people maggot, telling them to commit suicide and shoot up their family, and (repeatedly) pucker up and kiss your butt because you are “bending over now”. And in the midst of this vile talk, you write of praying for someone. Do you have a split personality?

            Please edify everyone here and give ONE example of the evil words you claim I have used. Then show me where I have tried to engage people in meaningless debate that takes away from the real issues. I don’t think you can. If you actually read all of my words above, I have repeatedly tried to focus directly on the issues at hand. Kindly show me where I haven’t — other than defending myself from silly and less than honest attacks. My objective here has always been to get to the facts, and avoid emotions based on racial stereotypes. (Some would say the alternate approach is the one you should be attacking.

            Anyway, the request still stands. Will you answer my questions above?

            Sadly, I doubt that you will, but I’m hoping you will surprise me. Or, you may just continue in your split-personality-suicide-encouraging-murder-abetting-bending-over-for-a-double-pucker-maggot-invoking-pray-for-someone-refuse-to-answer-an-honest-question happy place.

            I’m still hoping for the best. What have you got?

          • wealthylady April 16, 2012 at 10:25 pm

            I’m tired of “beating” this dead horse, cause he’s not getting up…I’m out!

          • playrighter April 16, 2012 at 11:01 pm

            WoozyLoozy:

            While I’m not a horse (which have earned more respect than you have so far), I’m very much alive.

            The problem here is not that I’m not getting up. The problem is that I keep asking you to raise your standards, and I refuse to drop to your level.

            Let’s try it again. Stop ducking. Just answer the questions like a grown-up, instead of throwing more tantrums. Fair enough?

        • playrighter April 15, 2012 at 8:58 pm

          MzzCoraE: My apologies for the multiple prints. As
          you can see, I’m having difficulty with cut and paste (since I cannot see what I’m writing here after a certain point.)

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  69. MzzCoraE April 15, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    Race Card:

    Something white people made up so that when they say something that is racially offensive they can turn it around on you and make it seem like you’re being over sensitive.

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    • wealthylady April 15, 2012 at 11:19 pm

      Gurrrrlllll, you know you on the money! And they know doggone well what they say & do in their inner ciricles. But we are suppose to be stupid, we live it everyday!

      Reply
    • playrighter April 16, 2012 at 12:51 am

      MzzCoraE: First, thanks for the link above. It’s an even-handed article, and I didn’t know that Martin’s mom was very reluctant to go public, she was sure it was a racist murder, and the exposure was due to a well-crafted campaign by a PR Expert.

      My question is to you, since you provided the definition of “race card” above. I only knew it as the one of the strategies in the O.J. Simpson trial, although Wikipedia also mentions tactics by Jesse Helms and Hillary Clinton. I’m not familiar with your definition. Where does it come from? Thanks.

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    • playrighter April 16, 2012 at 1:01 am

      To ANYONE: What do you think would have happened

      if George Zimmerman had also had a PR firm?

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  70. mmdccbslm April 15, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    The wheels of Justice are now turning. Let it take it’s course and be done with it. No more public grieving because the extreme emotion causes words to be misspoken.

    Sit in court and stare at the killer and let him know that you know he killed your son because he was young and black and GZ thought he would get away with it. He felt licensed especially because of the record of the sanford police and the fact that his father was a judge. and the florida law was also an easy justification thanks to the police.

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    • playrighter April 16, 2012 at 3:05 pm

      I’m really having trouble wrapping my head around this: How would GZ believe he would get away with calling the police, telling them what he was doing, giving his name, address, and phone number, and then waiting for the police to arrive after the shooting? Does that sound like somebody trying to get away with something?

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      • wealthylady April 16, 2012 at 6:01 pm

        You talk as if this GZ is a sensible person. Just like the good “slavemasters” who felt “justified” because of who they felt they were and their sense of entitlement. What is it you don’t get playright? Are you just another ‘white man” on here to just f— with us? You portray this “falseness” in your so called logic. And I’m really getting a little sick of your “rhertoric”

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        • playrighter April 16, 2012 at 6:32 pm

          Wealthy Lady: And I’m getting tired of your narrow-minded, ignorant, race-bating B.S, and cowardice in answering questions.
          I said “Does that sound like somebody trying to get away with something?” What on earth is unfair about that question? What is unfair about the questions I asked that you still refuse to answer? You don’t know my race, and rather than answer simple
          questions you keep interrupting to “F” with me. Demonstrate where ANY of my logic is wrong. Demonstrate you’ve got anything to offer other than empty, baseless attacks. Show what you’re made of. STEP UP, Gurrrrlllll! (Or show your own colors).

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          • Terry April 16, 2012 at 7:01 pm

            Playrighter: If you want to understand people like her and others on this site that sound crazy, read a book by Thomas Sowell titled “Black Rednecks and White Liberals.” Their overtly prejudiced and foul mouths will be explained by Mr. Sowell in a way that only this preeminent black scholar can.
            “It presents eye-opening insights into the historical development of the ghetto culture that is today wrongly seen as a unique black identity- a culture cheered on toward self destruction by white liberals who consider themselves “friends” of blacks.”

          • playrighter April 16, 2012 at 7:38 pm

            Terry: First, thanks for giving me something other than an attack (it’s interesting how I get that, rather than honest answers
            to legitimate questions. Maybe there’s a lesson there?)
            Second, the book you mention is four feet from me, next
            to “Race Matters” by Cornell West, “One by One from the Inside Out” by Glenn Loury, “Negrophilia” by Erik Rush, “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky, and “Bridges Out of Poverty” by Ruby K. Payne. This site might have a much different exchange if
            others here also had a reading list like that. Thanks.
            P.S.: You may be getting some “hate mail” yourself….

          • wealthylady April 16, 2012 at 9:55 pm

            Playright & Terry you both have been nominated by me as the most educated “fools” of the year. Now if you could get some common sense you would be “dangerous”

          • playrighter April 16, 2012 at 10:03 pm

            “Wealthy — certainly not in common smarts or sense)”
            Don’t know why I bother, perhaps I’m just an optimist, and I figure there HAS TO BE some dignity and intelligence under all your B.S. You refuse to answer legitimate questions, and TRIPLE POST your silly attacks. What do you have against logic, reasonable requests, common courtesy, literacy, and the ability to have a civil discourse???? Here’s a test for you (and anyone else): Compare my postings and yours. You won’t need a nomination. You are clearly elected “fool”.

            ANY EVIDENCE to the contrary is welcome. Attacks, not needed.

          • wealthylady April 16, 2012 at 10:18 pm

            yap, yap, yap, yap,yap,yap,yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap,
            This is just how you sound!

          • wealthylady April 16, 2012 at 9:46 pm

            More rhetoric by another “idiot” self proclaimed scholar who thinks by his “much” speaking he will be preceived as one with knowledge. SMDH

          • MzzCoraE April 16, 2012 at 10:31 pm

            I ain’t tryna get in yo’ bidnez, Sista Lady, however, if you want a dog to die, the best way to achieve that is to not feed him.

          • Terry April 16, 2012 at 10:42 pm

            I agree! If you have nothing to say worthwhile; shut up and leave the heavy lifting to the adults. Go get something to eat, turn on the TV, and chillax.

          • playrighter April 16, 2012 at 10:58 pm

            Terry:

            Q.E.D.

            Nos cogitare, ergo sunt

            Have a nice day.

          • wealthylady April 17, 2012 at 2:18 am

            Todavía estás enfermo

          • playrighter April 17, 2012 at 4:59 am

            W.L. 1) I never was sick
            2) Why are you butting into this conversation?
            3) Why don’t you grow a pair (you name it) and
            answer the questions asked, instead of being a whiny, petulant,
            snarky, pain in the butt? You can do it, can’t you????

          • wealthylady April 17, 2012 at 12:56 pm

            You didn’t have a problem “butting” into my conversation with Daisy. Up until them I was “ignoring” you. What makes you think that it’s ok for your to do something to someone, but it’s a problem when they do it to you. You sound like George Zimmerman to me!

          • playrighter April 17, 2012 at 1:39 pm

            PoorExcuse: Kindly note that I only addressed you AFTER you addressed me as a MAGGOT. Evidence to the contrary welcome.

          • wealthylady April 17, 2012 at 1:12 pm

            BTW when you grow a pair I will!

          • playrighter April 17, 2012 at 1:42 pm

            Woefully Lacking: Kindly note that I am the one using evidence and calls for civility to make my points. You are the one who, in the face of REPEATED requests for answers to legitimate questions, keeps running away from the issues at hand and instead hurls insults. I’m doing just fine, thank you. It is you who needs to grow a pair. For starters, how about 1) Civility and
            2) Intelligent discourse?

            If you have nothing positive to add, why do you bother??

          • playrighter April 16, 2012 at 11:15 pm

            MzzCoraE: Congratulations. Your self-fulfilling prophecy has come full circle and now your words make sense — FOR YOU:
            “Since you question the veracity of my comments, I would humbly recommend that you move on to those statements you do support.” You’re the one who got all up in MY bidnez, lecturing me, when you refuse to answer legitimate questions. You actually said that this is “not a back and forth discussion board”. ARE YOU SERIOUS? ARE YOU DELUSIONAL? Can you answer my questions without your hateful, baseless drive-by attacks? What do you have against intelligent discourse?
            If YOU have nothing worthwhile to add — go somewhere else.
            Thank you for your attention.

          • wealthylady April 16, 2012 at 9:41 pm

            Rhe to ric more of the same!

  71. Obama Supporter April 16, 2012 at 1:46 am

    THE FEDS NEED TO SEIZE THE TAPES BEFORE THEY MYSTERIOUSLY DISAPPEAR.

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  72. Obama Supporter April 16, 2012 at 2:07 am

    THE STATE ATTORNEY DELIBERATELY SET THE BAR TOO HIGH SO SHE WON’T BE ABLE TO PROVE IT BECAUSE SHE WAS INSTRUCTED TO DO SO. THE WHOLE FIASCO IS TAINTED.

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    • MzzCoraE April 16, 2012 at 3:55 am

      State Attorney, Ms. Angela Corey, is deeply committed to her Christian belief system. She is an elected official, so the only people she has to answer to are those who elected her. I am sure all of her constituency did not call her up and say “Look, Angela, make this charge so high you can’t prove it, or, we will get you.

      Ms. Corey prayed with Mr. Martin and Ms. Fulton about the situation. She is a praying woman. I personally think God may have told her what call to make.

      Reply
  73. rasil April 16, 2012 at 2:16 am

    Here you go again criticizing the parent of a deceased child. Heartless and sickening. You have a critical jealous spirit.

    Reply
  74. rasil April 16, 2012 at 2:18 am

    You need to practice the 7 principles and not add them as a part of your charade.

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  75. Thomas April 16, 2012 at 10:25 am

    Dr. Boyce the idol mind is a playground for the devil and you and others have forgotten that this mother is full of grief and attempting to find answers for the tragedy that is only hers to figure out. Its not the responsibility of the public at large who know very little of the circumstances or how to deal with such grief. You should step aside and let this mother handle her business as a mother should. I don’t think you or these other men have ever been a mother nor do you appear to have the empathy for her as a mother. She can’t hurt this case any more than the Sanford police or the State Attorney’s office has already, thus grant her the priviledge of searching for answers in whatever way she can. Then on reflection she may find relief and peace. Something that time will only heal. She has already tried to clear up the statement that the accident was that he(Zimmerman) couldn’t change what had happened to her son.

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  76. chris d April 16, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    I do think that the parents of Trayvon need to be limited on what they are saying concerning this case. I myself have had discussions about this. I think that she need to be very careful about these interviews and how much is being said. You would think that their legal counsel will speak more when it come to that part of the interviews. I am also wondering if she has more than one lawyer besides the one that is always speaking with her because sometimes i wonder about the way he speaks. Lord knows i’m not trying to be funny or doubt his professionalism, but how he speaks sometimes i just wonder about some things. If i am wrong in my OPINION i would like to know. I hope that this statement is not taken the wrong way. I really would like a repsonse to this.

    Reply
    • playrighter April 16, 2012 at 10:51 pm

      Chris: I think she’s being torn in four different directions, if not more. Travis was the one pushing this case for some time. Crump has the legal strategies to follow. Ryan Julison, the P.R. guy who spread this story nationwide, has his angles. And Sybrina, who wanted to avoid all this, has whatever thoughts are in her heavy heart at the moment she speaks.

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  77. Charlente April 28, 2012 at 12:58 am

    My prayers go out to Trayvon’s family. I don’t think Sabrina mis-spoke on The Today show. I think she spoke from her heart. It doesn’t matter because what she says has wont have any effect on the 2nd degree murder charge against Zimmerman. That is a matter of law for the court, judge and jury. It might have an effect on a big wrongful death lawsuit though. I personally feel very bad for the family. They have lost their son and are now being used by the likes of Al Sharpton for his agenda. Even attorney Crump is doing this for his “own” gain, not 100% for the family. In the mean time, he is ripping our community apart. He wont let up and keeps making everyone angry. I want justice for Trayvon too. I see this tragedy is being used as a tool by many people to make money and reputation for themself. That is just wrong.

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  78. Bobby G July 7, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    I think she meant it wasn’t planned, but not being articulate, she
    was unable to explain herself. Zimmerman clearly stated that he
    shot the guy in self defense. No accidental shooting.

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  79. RC February 18, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Almost a year now since Travon -We Love You!- has been gone,
    LORD heal our hearts with a gospel filled song.

    Let the courts do the judgement game,
    For his parents an unwanted life of fame.

    Make us all a more loving compassionate people,
    GRACE be upon the world from the highest steeple.

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